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    Originally posted by ronin69
    So, now that you are more "experienced" in MT ( IE: you know what side of the shorts is forward).
    How have you intergraded your WC ?
    Are you gonna add any "body rubbing" ( Grappling) to your arsenal ?
    Well, I do use WC parries when sparring - mostly gan sao against uppercuts and a variation of the tan sao against jabs (they use only outside-inside slaps against jabs, I still prefer inside-outside defenses) - it is a variation because of the boxing gloves. I also tend to try and get control of the other person´s arm, which my coach doesn´t like at all, but I do it anyway when things get too rough and when I am getting too close to the infamous survival mode.

    Finally, I do some trapping once in a while. Not first class trapping, not textbook trapping - only the trapping which I am able to do when I control someone´s arm, or which I do after pulling down someone´s guard when moving in for an attack.

    Oh, yes. I also tend to "glide" along the floor instead of using the "jumpy" footwork they favor, I keep both my feet as close to the floor as possible - very wing chunish. My coach says it is a very gay kind of footwork, but I keep doing it anyway because it keeps me standing when the guys decide to use low kicks and sweeps.

    I only use their "jumpy" footwork when I am reasonably distant, at least distant enough to use kicks. Up close, I would rather keep my feet firmly on the ground.

    As for grappling, I am a judoka, remember? An out of practice judoka, but still...I don´t have any immediate plans on improving my rusty grappling game, I barely have enough time for MT.
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    I find your lack of desire to roll aorund with sweaty men, disturbing.
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    Posted On:
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    Originally posted by mididoctors
    then you have found the place you want to be..

    itch scratched or are there still questions?

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    Itch scratched, I think. :)

    Ronin, I´ve done enough rolling around with sweaty men for quite a bit of time, about 10 years in fact...of course I still suck (I have rolled a bit with BJJ people), but that simply isn´t a priority for me, at least for the moment - I believe I know enough about stand up grappling to keep myself on my own two feet if I ever decide to play vale tudo with someone who is not a specialist.
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
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    Originally posted by WingChun Lawyer
    Itch scratched, I think. :)

    Ronin, I´ve done enough rolling around with sweaty men for quite a bit of time, about 10 years in fact...of course I still suck
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    I find the fact that you still pretend to be heterossexual quite disturbing, buddy.
    That civilisation may not sink,
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
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    I admit there is no good reason for ressurecting this old thread, I do not have nothing new to add here: I´ve been doing Muay Thai for almost two years now, and next month I´ll do my second grade exam. I have completely quit Wing Chun, and there is nothing I keep from my two years with my former sifu.

    In fact, my old judo training has been much more useful to me than Wing Chun, paradoxically. But I diggress.

    It´s just that I really like this thread, and Phrost said he will delete old stuff. And I like to read it every once in a while to compare my previous opinions on both Muay Thai and Wing Chun with my current opinions: sometimes I refer people from other forums (mostly Wing Chuners) to this thread, so they will be able understand where am I coming from.

    So I believe this old thread should be preserved. That´s all there is to it really.
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    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
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    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
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    You should keep the log uptodate, you'll be surprise how much it helps.
    On a side note, have you begun to learn the R3al Mua7 5hai ?
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    You should keep the log uptodate, you'll be surprise how much it helps.
    On a side note, have you begun to learn the R3al Mua7 5hai ?
    I considered doing that, but I am a lazy bastard.

    And I believe I have just now been introduced to THA REAL MUAY THAI. My roundkicks are finally worth something, my punches are not as hard as soggy noodles anymore, and I have lost the fear of getting hit in my pretty face. I am currently working on my knees.

    Actually, I am more interested in working up my cardio at the moment. My next exam is on december 10th, and it will hurt. Badly. Very badly indeed.

    Funny thing is, now that we are finally doing some more serious clinchwork, I have re-discovered the joys of judo, to the distress of my classmates (most of them know **** about grappling, and the ones that do are BJJ guys with no stand up grappling experience). Do you know how easily someone with only one foot on the ground can be ippon seoi nage´d?
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChun Lawyer
    I considered doing that, but I am a lazy bastard.

    And I believe I have just now been introduced to THA REAL MUAY THAI. My roundkicks are finally worth something, my punches are not as hard as soggy noodles anymore, and I have lost the fear of getting hit in my pretty face. I am currently working on my knees.

    Actually, I am more interested in working up my cardio at the moment. My next exam is on december 10th, and it will hurt. Badly. Very badly indeed.

    Funny thing is, now that we are finally doing some more serious clinchwork, I have re-discovered the joys of judo, to the distress of my classmates (most of them know **** about grappling, and the ones that do are BJJ guys with no stand up grappling experience). Do you know how easily someone with only one foot on the ground can be ippon seoi nage´d?

    Oh yes !!
    There are a few throws that just fit perfectly with the MT clinch, defending or attacking.
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    Posted On:
    11/01/2005 2:58pm

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    To be honest, I have lately only using one throw, but it works every time. It is a bastardization of an actual judo move, but I like it: I basically wrap my right arm around the victim´s neck, grab his right wrist with my left hand, turn my back to him and block his legs with my right leg, while doing a rotational movement. It is not exactly a hip throw, as I mostly make the guy trip.

    Anyway, I use than when I clinch. When I am in a bad mood I fall on top of the guy. Pity the coach does not like it much when I use judo during sparring...but truth be told, it IS cool to see the guys flying.
    That civilisation may not sink,
    Its great battle lost,
    Quiet the dog, tether the pony
    To a distant post;
    Our master Caesar is in the tent
    Where the maps are spread,
    His eyes fixed upon nothing,
    A hand under his head.


    - W.B. Yeats
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