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  1. JordanT is offline
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    They step over my foot. I don't recall where that leaves the pressure exactly, but its forced both me and some of my guys to tap.
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    Its when they get their hip bone under your ankle and trap your leg. As long as you stay up on the soft part of their belly you can avoid the ankle lock. I use the body triangle a lot and have only been tapped with it once when a real skinny kid got his hip in there.
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    If you're getting tapped while you have back mount, I would argue that you are out of good position in the first place. Keeping them low relative to your body, stretching out their spine and keeping them on their back, as opposed to their side, will minimize your vulnerability to ankle locks.
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    Thanks WS. I kept screwing around with my vertical leg instead of changing the horizontal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    If you're getting tapped while you have back mount, I would argue that you are out of good position in the first place. Keeping them low relative to your body, stretching out their spine and keeping them on their back, as opposed to their side, will minimize your vulnerability to ankle locks.
    I though one of the survival positions for when someone has your back was to to slide down, like in this video
    YouTube - Gracie Jiu-Jitsu: Rear Mount Survival Position
    admittedly I don't know much hence the desire for clarification.
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    It is, though that can lead to triangles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    I though one of the survival positions for when someone has your back was to to slide down, like in this video
    YouTube - Gracie Jiu-Jitsu: Rear Mount Survival Position
    admittedly I don't know much hence the desire for clarification.
    If someone drops down like that, I'll tend to catch them mid transition before they break the harness/over-under/seat-belt, turn myself perpendicular to them (both feet go into their far armpit), scoot my butt back so I can still give forward pressure, and then cinch in the harness even tighter. I can't find a picture. :-P

    The resulting position sucks to be in for the other guy. As Jordan mentions, the triangle is right there. So is the bow and arrow, the arm bar, simple wrist locks, a modified keylock/Americana, Kimura, etc..

    The transition to mount from there is trivial as well should they begin to escape.

    I'd advocate always trying to escape up AND out (not one or the other) while framing the entire time. Sliding down introduces a lot of options for the guy on top because you allow his hips to become highly mobile.
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    JordanT

    I hope you saw the Roger/Prangley Strikeforce fight.

    Textbook transition from mount to back utilizing the body triangle.

    Roger seems pretty fond of the body triangle. That's good enough for me.
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    It's one of those things you tell begginers never to do because they don't have the judgement yet for when to do it.


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    It's mainly because they will get caught with the ankle lock yes. Like. It crossing your ankles in an armbar... It's to make you focus on the right technique. You can cross your ankles from back mount but if you aren't careful you could get ankle locked. If you cross your ankles during an armbar, you forget to pinch your knees together.
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