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    Quote Originally Posted by Like_A_Boss View Post
    The only thing i do for shoulders is clean and press with a bar and/or sandbag, that will get you some serious shoulders, but most beneficial is that you work alot of other muscle groups at the same time, and def increases overall strength.
    I enjoy Clean and Press as a supplemental exercise occasionally. The only issue with it, as with all exercises in which form and explosiveness are a requisite, is that reps generally have to be lower to avoid form retardation. Also, the variables created by making it virtually a whole body exercise means it is more difficult to track progress under some programs such as Wendler's 5/3/1.
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    I do mainly dumbbell presses for shoulders..but I think the lateral dumbbell raises work better, personally. Especially if you bring 'em down nice and slow.
    But I sincerely hate doing them for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZ View Post
    I do mainly dumbbell presses for shoulders..but I think the lateral dumbbell raises work better, personally. Especially if you bring 'em down nice and slow.
    But I sincerely hate doing them for some reason.
    Work better for what? Strength development or aesthetically-geared hypertrophy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    Work better for what? Strength development or aesthetically-geared hypertrophy?
    The latter..I guess there was an assumption on my part that physique enhancement was the focus here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZ View Post
    The latter..I guess there was an assumption on my part that physique enhancement was the focus here.
    I agree on the latter, at least as far as my trapezius muscles go. I've been doing them with a resistance band for supplemental reasons and I've noticed a substantial difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas View Post
    Really, I've never heard of an increased rate of injury with overhead pressing, and I doubt there is any data to support it. Injury results from improper form and programming.
    Considering my age and poor health (in need of knee replacements, blood and kidney problems, etc) I stay away from heavier weights. Hand and angle weights are all I use now.

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    Re: What other exercise for the shoulders exist besides military presses?

    When doing shoulder exercises be sure to work on your rear deltoid muscle...
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    Re: What other exercise for the shoulders exist besides military presses?

    Quote Originally Posted by BldyKnuckles89 View Post
    When doing shoulder exercises be sure to work on your rear deltoid muscle...
    I feel the need to elaborate on this.

    Imbalance in the shoulders caused by not working the whole shoulder is begging for injury. It's the reason I now have to do a **** ton of supplemental work after a nasty rotator cuff tear.

    Balance is always the way forward.
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    Re: What other exercise for the shoulders exist besides military presses?

    Well said Mickey, I just couldn't get the words out to explain it I guess

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    You can do rotator cuff exercises and exercises on the scapular plane, gain strength in your shoulders without lifting your arms over your head, and decrease risk for an injury. Be careful with vertical pressing, you don't want an injury like I just got, rotator cuff tendonitis.

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