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    12/18/2007 12:29am

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    Ninja Claus,

    I have trained at VMAA for over two years and I have never heard of this Thurmond guy.
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    Ninja Claus,

    Just read the article you linked. No that Victory Martial Arts is not afiliated in any way with VMAA owned by Sifu Dion. I do wonder about the trade name/trademark issue though. I will offer prayers for Thurmond and for those that where hurt by his actions.
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    Greetings Mr. Bones, I have two questions for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by danbones
    His teachers are teaching for him out of loyalty and respect and due to a belief that when you return value where value is received that which you honor in your life will increase in your life. Sifu Dion is not making any more money now than he was a year ago.
    Are you saying that his instructors work for no monetary compensation?

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    It is never too late for anyone to make a decision for Jesus. Sifu Dion will help you with that too.

    I imagine some people are uncomfortable with that , including some of Sifu's mentors. It will never be to late for any of them either.
    Does Mr. Riccardo proselytize during classes?
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    12/18/2007 12:49am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninja Claus
    Then how much is it for two classes a week. Please scan your contract here after redacting your personal information.

    Claus,

    That information is not in the "stock contract" at VMAA, it gets filled in at the time of sale. Are you asking to see a contract? I posted the tuition rates....some of them...and they are accurate and factual as I posted them. I do not know who Cyberfu is or what that person knows about the rates. What is "redacting"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holiday in Cambodia
    Greetings Mr. Bones, I have two questions for you.

    Are you saying that his instructors work for no monetary compensation?


    No, I am not saying that at all. In fact one instructor came in tonight to pick up a paycheck.
    I do not know or have any reason to know what Sifu makes or what any of the instructors are paid but I do know that staff instructor is a paid position.

    I speak for myself and to my own understanding when I make the value comments. What I meant (and I think you understand) is that people return value for value just like anger returns anger or a smile is usually returned. For me, I get value from the instruction that I receive so I naturally want to give value where and however I can. For example, Saturday morning I went to class early and cleared the snow from infront of the building...not for renumeration or free lessons but for reasons like how it reflects on the academy to the other tennants of the building and how it is safer and easier for classmates. From a selfish perspective I did not want my face ground into any salt that came in on someones feet.



    Does Mr. Riccardo proselytize during classes?
    No, he does not. While he may have a right to do so, I believe that he chooses not to because it would cause some to question his authority role. I have never heard him bring up dirtectly the topic of faith in a class session or "on the floor". My personal experience with the first time we talked faith was initiated by me and it was an accident. Sifu asked me if I was tired. I responded Are you saying that I lacked zeal tonite? That is a reference to Romans 12:11 he responded...No, but I would share with you if you where in need. That is Romans 12:13. I responded ..Thank you sir. I will be joyful in hope patient in affliction and faithful in prayer, which is Romans 12:12. To which he said Amen. I would not characterize anything I have seen there in a way that affirms your question...but we may have a different perspective. All of the class instruction is germaine and professional.
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    Sorry that response came in kind of queer. I've got to retire and get some rest. Peace guys, Im out for now. DB
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    Redacted = cover/censor. In this case, block all the stuff you don't want on the internet: names, addresses, phone numbers, bank accounts, cell phone numbers... etc. on a scan of the contract.
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    Thank you for your reply Mr. Bones.
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    It's not good to mess with a good man....

    I heard about this thread today, well yesterday at my academy, and to tell you the truth I though the guy was lieing. So I am up late working and I thought since I have been diligent all day and got all my goals accomplished, all be it very late, but done non the less, I thought I would take a look and see for myself these statements I heard at my academy.

    Well the gentleman, a very good friend and very dedicated, competent martial artist, was right on with what the comments I read were, not that I thought he was lieing, he would never do that, but maybe just maybe he didn't read it right. The comments on hear about Sifu Dion Riccardo are a shame. I know Master Riccardo and to say he changed my life is an understatement, the man showed me that there was a glimer of hope for us all. He showed me that there was truth and dignity left in this world. I met Mr. Riccardo almost two years ago, and when I did well lets just say I was lost in my life. Like I know most of you out there can share with me, we have jobs, wives or girlfriends or boyfriends, we have a bit of money, a little house, we are supposed to be happy right, then why do we feel like crap....I had no clue why......You know why casue I was tired of all the crap in the world liars, cheaters, thieves, back stabbers, horse s#@t drivers on the street, traffic jams. Right you feel it all that stuff was coming down on me and I hated everyone I was fet up with it all, all I wanted was TRUTH. Truth ...damn I was convinced we were all going to hell and I was first in line. Let me tell you a bit about me, like Mr. Bones, I don't care about my identity, I am proud to tell my story about Dion Riccardo, but I am not afraid to hide behind an alias, FREE PUNCH, by the way what kind Fruit or Grape......anyway freepunch when I met Mr. Riccardo I wasn't an angel in fact I swear I was the devil himself I worked on T.V. you can look me up I was one of Springer Security on Jerry Springer show for 4 years, I am sure you know the show well.. ya I was not only one of, but I was the next Steve on the show, Steve was moving on to his own show and I was next in line, you know why cause all the girls liked me, and I was tough I handled the biggest baddest guys that went out on that stage, by the way you can read my blog at www.aantonio.typepad.com, hey I had it all I had the hottest chicks throw themselves at me, I was cheating on my girlfriend(who was a playboy playmate) ya I didn't care i was Tony from the Springer show and I could f*@k anyone I wanted, I was partying with rock stars, sleeping with porn-stars and having lunch with with wiseguys at NBC tower, I had it all right. why am I telling you this, because I guess to you freepunch that life could only be a dream, because I am just thinking you probably don't have much in life, just because I think if you did you would have better things to do with your time, than to reply to a post thats over 4 years old, just sayin. I had it all man, but I was miserable, I needed something I needed something to guide me I felt hollow empty like crap, I needed to get into something, I wanted to fight I don't know why I just needed to vent. I went to seek out the best to teach me, and the one name that kept coming up was

    MR. DION RICCARDO

    I walked into the academy not knowing what to expect, all I knew is that I needed to do this. Sifu, In case you don't know the meaning of this word freepunch Sifu means father or father figure, Mr. Riccardo and his staff where polite, knowlegable, tough, fair, but most importantly honest. I began to train there, and I thought fighting was the vehicle to get me that peace in my gut, I was right is has, but fighting and training alone don't give you that peace, It's how you translate your study of the martial arts to aLL areas of your life, mentally, spiritually, emotionally and it's because of MR. RICCARDO. Dion showed me that in life real men don't say they are real men, they act like real men, they have honor, diginity, integrity, and class....are you taking notes Freepunch...now Mr. Riccardo could have just said that to me, but you kow what I knew that already, but no one lives their life like that, I had no hope, it was just another person saying and not doing. You know what I have found since that though....Mr. Riccardo has shown me every second, of every hour, of every day that I have ever spent with him nothing short on 100% on all of those traits. He has never talked in an ill way about anyone ever, never has he ever talked bad about one school, one teacher from another school, never have I seen him not take the time to teach someone, or talk to someone at anytime anywhere, I don't I have ever heard him swear. Sifu Riccardo showed me that there was hope for me to make myself a better person and a better man through his actions, not his words. I knew to really fulfill my emptiness I had to stop hurting others and using people, I needed to help people teach them martial arts, teach them respect, discipline, teach them they can do anything the put their minds too, teach tem to get over obstacles, Sifu has and continues to teach me about life, He stays with me until well into the early morning sometimes talking, sharing, teaching and he does'nt have to do that he does it because he cares. That is Mr. Riccardo!!!

    So MR. Freepunch, The ascademy I heard this at was at VICTORY MARTIAL ARTS at 9:00am Monday morning for our classes, see I am one of the dedicated instructors at the academy, you are right Mr. Riccardo is not at Oak Park as much as he would like, but he has tremendous instructors teaching there until he can spend more time at Oak Park, you see Freepunch Sifu has a infant project in Orland that he must attend to right now, He is on the mat for two hours a night 4 nights a week out there, along with his other business's and family to devote the time to those guys in Orland when he doesn't have too, that is a man. How do I know this, well you see Freepunch I always told myself that if I found goodness and truth I would invest in it. Freepunch stay with me now, I left my great job on television where I was going to be the next big star- who cares I was selling out i wasn't helping anyone, and I invested in the Orland Park facility with Sifu..That is the man he is! he wants to expand his business, to do that he needs to be out of Oak Park. He does it because he wants to give guys like me a chance from within the academy, to build something that will help people, not only help people, but will change people's lives. I know for a fact allot of people are hurting out there I still have a huge fan base that tell me that they are struggling, people inquiring about Martial arts training tell me they need a realise, probably like you FreePunch, we all need truth in our lives and for that my friend I would pay a million dollars, In fact Mr. Bones is correct you can train at Victory for as low as $99.00 a month, So Freepunch since I think you need a hug, I will offer you this ...come train with us, if you were part of the school at any point come back, believe me we will turn the other cheek, cause when you bad mouth my Sifu You bad mouth me, but Master Riccardo always tells us that person causing you strife, he is your brother treat him like he is you, we all live by Sifu's example, so we will let you come in and we will embrace you and then we will train you. I know for a fact Sifu would take you back with open arms, I know it, but come in my class and keep up I will work you hard, but I will also teach you, I am not afraid to teach the way Sifu taught me, with integrity,and Honor! There you go Freepunch, as you can see I wasn't the first and i know i won't be the last to reply, my advice to you`is if you don't get into fighting, at least get into something that will occupy your time, go to church, man. By the way Freepunch Merry Christmas, I think we should all be aware of the time of year, shouldn't we all be Jesus Freaks all the time......Think about it.

    My oh my when I get started I just keep on writing.

    Merry Christmas to all and Mr. Bones you are the best you are a truley giving man.

    , and by the way instructors do get paid, but I bet if you asked every instructor if we would do it for free for Mr. Riccardo and Mr. Calderone we would.

    Oh ya by the way Freenpunch that Potege as you so eleoquentely "" put it, is just that a replica of Sifu and that is something you can never quote. Anthony I am in your corner you do a tremendous job overall keep up the great work.

    God Bless You all
    Peace
    Tony The Bull

    By the way Freepunch why don't you go into the new Randy Cotoure gym in Lombard and see if you can train with Randy, just see what they say. I am just sayin, try it let us all know what they say.
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    uh... could you try summarizing that in 100 words or less? I got lost and have no idea what you're trying to say.
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