The Phoenix Stance, what is it really?

**Lonestar** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 10:05am

In the Tekken series, my favorite character, Ling Xiaoyu uses a stance called the Phoenix Stance, from which she can use a variety of moves. Here are all the pictures Google could muster up of it for me:

YouTube - [TEKKEN6 BR] Xiaoyu Combo Vid (1)

Ordinarily I would not care of the reality of a video game move except that I have seen it elsewhere. Unfortunately I do not know the rl name of the move and I can not do a proper internet search of it. I know I saw it used in the CMA episode of Human Weapon for sure. YouTube - Human Weapon Kung Fu of China Part 4 [The first 15 seconds]

I also know I have seen it in CMA demonstrations as well. So my question is what is this move really? And what is it used for?

[Sorry for the "Click the image to open in full size" stuff. My posting skills are lacking and I do not know how to get rid of the text.]

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 10:10am

We don't call this the phoenix stance but it's used as an evasion baiting pose. Like any other guard. Wish I had it on video but I once did this in a blackbelt test and caught the testers kick and threw them. It's amazing what you can pull off when the other person is extremely worn down and not thinking clearly.

***TaeBo_Master*** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 7:34pm

I usually end up in a Drunken Boxing stance. And often not on purpose.

**Orion Paximus** · Posted On: 1/18/2011 12:10pm

Like most "stances", it has several purposes. Some of which include strength and flexibility conditioning, evasion (as previously stated), hiding your true distance, etc

**Shiningwolf** · Posted On: 1/19/2011 8:09pm

In Wushu its called Drop Stance or Dragon Stance.

**keyoz** · Posted On: 1/20/2011 1:46am

In Bagua context (Ling is supposed to do Bagua) I've seen it used as an ankle pick entry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA_AuE5Z0ZA#t=1m44s

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/20/2011 11:05am

I decided to poop in the CMA forum - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

Go bicker somewhere else.

**W. Rabbit** · Posted On: 1/20/2011 12:21pm

Pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) this stance is common in northern styles but not in southern ones. I could not find a southern style that uses this (this is not a hung ga "dragon" stance, for instance, and I know of no phoenix stance at all in our system), but the stance and similar ones are in a lot of changquan multimedia.

(really low)

(more changquan, similar)

(almost)

(hello...another low one, changquan)

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 1/20/2011 12:28pm

Rabbit you're confusing the stance with the position.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/20/2011 12:40pm

Ask a question if you don't understand the stance. Those pictures are all Modern Wushu, imo, and can't be used as any type of refference.

Half the problem with the OP and Kovacs is they, and now you, are using Modern Wushu as a type of base to draw a conclusion about a stance or technique. Oh and a video-game that is supposed to look flashy.