I can't read so, Why are people saying muay boran is not effective

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:14pm

Originally Posted by Tiger74

I got ego, arrogance, ridicule, petty technical details, etc...

Well, we agree, this describes your posts correctly.

**Tiger74** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:16pm

Originally Posted by Uncle Skippy

Convenient. Yet not the point. If the more 'advanced' techniques of Muay Boran are so efficient and effective at ending fights, why is it not used in MMA? Escpecially when those techniques are legal?

Under MMA rules, you are allowed to attempt to break an arm/leg and, if you succeed, that is just part of the game.

Why do we not see those techniques in MMA if they are so effective?

I do not know why the practioners of Muay Chaiya do not frequent the MMA camp but I haven't seen many "Thai" Muay Thai boxers in the Octagon. I also haven't seen many poeple break other people's arm in MMA either. Professional courtesy?

1. School forbids sport competition (perhaps for profit competition)
2. Keeps the school's technique from being displayed all over the television. Some don't even want to accept foreign students.
3. Not too many people practice Muay Boran because it is not well known outside the circle. Sport Muay Thai is available and convenient.

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:18pm

Originally Posted by Tiger74

Bullshit? I talk about documented history and you say bullshit? Like I said frog under a coconut shell.

If it's documented history, what evidence do you have that what you're learning is exactly what was done on the battlefield?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:19pm

Originally Posted by Tiger74

I do not know why the practioners of Muay Chaiya do not frequent the MMA camp but I haven't seen many Muay Thai in the Octagon. I also haven't seen many poeple break other people's arm in MMA either. Professional courtesy?

Then you have not watched MMA on a consistent basis. Hell, arms get broken in BJJ tournaments let alone the Octagon.

**matthias.** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:20pm

I honestly don't understand how you don't understand what people here are trying to say.

It's like car developers would never test their airbags just trust their calculations. In theory it should work but they still crash an abundance of cars against walls just to see if it really works the way they intented.

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:20pm

Originally Posted by Tiger74

I haven't seen many Muay Thai in the Octagon. I also haven't seen many poeple break other people's arm in MMA either

You must not be watching the same MMA that I have.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:20pm

Originally Posted by atomicpoet

If it's documented history, what evidence do you have that what you're learning is exactly what was done on the battlefield?

He saw the cave paintings........:rolleyes:

**Kovacs** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:21pm

Originally Posted by Tiger74

If I am delivering the message in a form of a quote, how am I not the messenger? Its petty stuff like this that makes you look bad.

You didn't write the quote, the quotes not a message and the quotes out of context.

YOU are responible for using that quote so expect to be pulled up on it.

**Tiger74** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:21pm

Originally Posted by It is Fake

Tiger74:

Yes folks irony.

Yeah, I never claimed I know everything and as you have noticed form my post, I also seek to learn Ju Jit Su, Aikido, MMA. I know I don't know everything and I am always seeking to learn. If someone has something to teach me, I'm all ears. But what I have found as the general attitude of this nation is when you try to educate someone on something, you get the arrogant attitude like "how dare you try to teach me anything, how dare you assume I don't already know everything". I have learned this while trying to educate people on the banking industry, the economic meltdown and Federal Reserve." Something that affects everyone's life yet people have an arrogant pompous attitude to anything new as if I was trying to improve upon perfection or something. How insolent of me. I get the same feel here on this board.

**Tiger74** · Posted On: 1/15/2011 6:24pm

Originally Posted by Ignorami

The thing I always wonder when people say this is: What art are those 10 guys from?

If you can beat ten guys from your art, your art clearly hasn't been doing those 10 guys any favours.

It is not to beat those 10 guys. It is to fight 10 guys. It is to measure your reflexes, your technique, and your speed. You don't have to "beat" 10 guys. You just have to fight them to show your skill.