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  1. Beowulf is offline

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    House of Black Dragon ?

    Hi

    Although I've been a member here for some time, I've never felt that I had anything to contribute to a discussion, or anything I wanted to ask. I did learn a lot though, thanks!

    A friend of mine is saving up some money to train with Jee Choi
    http://www.houseofblackdragonsociety.com/house.htm

    He says this guy will make hima JKD AND Kali instructor in a weekend, for $1000 ! :new_shock

    Of course this sounds like BS to me, but if somebody has some info on this guy, it would be much appreciated. At this stage its just my personal opinion and logic hopefully standing in the way of him getting ripped off.

    The more facts I have, the more chance I have of helping my friend keep his savings.

    thanks!
  2. hungryjoe is online now
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    Couldn't find an actual location for this guy from his website.

    If he's kiwi, he sure throws around some US history (Bowie, Arkansas toothpick and Susan B Anthony)

    Tell your friend to save his money. All this and no listing of teachers or actual arts trained.

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    Regardless of style or origin, claiming to be able to achieve mastery enough to be an instructor in one weekend is inevitably BS. And taking $1000 to do it just makes it a con.
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    The secret to mastery has always been and always will be one thing: Practice
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaeBo_Master View Post
    The secret to mastery has always been and always will be one thing: Practice
    Which is why its a safe bet you can't master anything in a single weekend.

    Tell your friend to stay away.
    " If one wants to have a friend one must also want to wage war for him: and to wage war one must be capable of being an enemy." - Fr. Nietzsche 'On The Friend' Thus Spake Zarathustra
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    I have been telling him exactly that, but he's a stubborn SOB...

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    the only way this could POSSIBLY be anything even remotely legit is if it's a program for people that are already an instructor of another style. Even then it's pretty thin.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZ View Post
    Which is why its a safe bet you can't master anything in a single weekend.

    Tell your friend to stay away.
    Tell that to the many TKD turned "Krav Maga" Instructor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    All this and no listing of teachers or actual arts trained.
    Well, to be fair, he does mention one instructor, James Keating:
    http://www.houseofblackdragonsociety.com/comtech.htm

    That said, I agree with you - plenty of red flags popping up here, and I'd stay away from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili Pepper View Post
    Well, to be fair, he does mention one instructor, James Keating:
    Keating does a lot of clinics and camps. Did this fellow spend a weekend with, in his words, "Uncle Jim", or a decade? If it's the latter he may be worth checking out.
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