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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Jazz View Post
    The amount of thoughts I have on this subject are enough to REALLY derail a quality thread. Apologies in advance for injecting so many thoughts. I should really make my own thread(s) for other people to derail.

    1. On point here, this article by Martin Rooney (trainer to several UFC fighters) is really great http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_...rrior_training

    For the lazy, Rooney advocates sticking to mostly using the big lifts at high weights for low reps. He feels this allows you to gain both power and endurance because being able to power through someone with ease will leave you feeling fresher.

    2. The point with any athletic training is going to be specificity or exercises with high carry-over, though I seem to recall that doing something too close to the actual movement itself can screw up form, which makes some degree of sense. I believe the experiments were with baseball pitchers.

    My intent in mentioning this is not to get people trying to do absurd weighted bosu balance bullshit, but to consider what movements they can do which closely mimic the movements they do. It's an untested thought, but I think that a quick alternating forward lunge (left then right, etc) is moderately close to the way you need to explode from a penetration step. Not that you should or shouldn't do this, but it makes sense to think about the movements you select in that framework. Doing a primarily unilateral movement in your sport? Try training it unilaterally at least SOMETIMES.

    The exception to that idea is if you are adressing issues of muscular balance and/or injury prevention. I've never done a damn thing that resembles a dumbbell external rotation, but it's a nice way to keep my shoulders happy.

    I'll stop there for now because I think I may be in meandering mind mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolph the red-nosed Rainman View Post
    Could you expand?
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    He hasn't posted in forever, and he has a picture of Django Reinhardt as his avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    the presumption here is that the injuries are healed before starting.
    I wish I could answer with a certain 'yes', but I suspect mine won't ever heal properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAYoung View Post
    I wish I could answer with a certain 'yes', but I suspect mine won't ever heal properly.
    What exactly happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickapoo View Post
    What exactly happened?
    I think it was a seoi-nage that happened. I landed badly, which snapped my head forward, squelching my c3/4 disk up against my spinal cord (bruising it). Nerve damage, alongside various spinal spurs.

    Here's what I wrote in 2007:

    07-21-2007, 01:47 AM
    I had a protrusion of the C3-4 disc. The doctors were just as serious as Fagbot's - NO lifting, driving, stretching forward, and DEFINITELY NO JUDO.

    18 months later I still get pain if I stretch the wrong way, tingling if jerk it suddenly, and all sorts of seemingly random jolts and aches.

    It's possible I'll have the weakness for life, and the side-effects (muscle weakness, etc) will certainly take some time to get over. I still can't lift my son normally, or for an extended period.

    IT'S THE GENTLE WAY, PEOPLE.
    I'm much stronger and fitter now, but still shitscared of reinjuring myself (the doctors spoke of paralysis). I'm currently looking for a good stand-up style nearby.
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    I recommend these guys if you are nearby http://www.supafightgym.com.au/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang View Post
    I recommend these guys if you are nearby http://www.supafightgym.com.au/.
    Looks like a solid gym, thank you.

    But that'd take me about one-and-a-half hours by public transport. (I don't drive much.)
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    Does Rooney train Edgar? I know he references him several times, but I know I've seen a video of Edgar doing circuits before a recent fight. (one of the BJ Penn ones) Maybe it's just a once a week thing that's apart of his strength and conditioning program and the other 2 workouts are strength training? I also remember seeing BJ Penn doing circuits also.

    Another thing is, what's the deal with recommending glutamine? Isn't there no evidence out there to support that it helps with recovery time or muscle building? I see a lot of people recommending this, but there is no evidence to support it unless something has been released in the past 1-2 years that somehow proves it does.

    Anyone familiar with the Biotest Superfood supplement? Looking at its ingredients, it appears to be a supplement for antioxidants, but can't you get that from just having a serving of fruit and vegetables everyday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travis17 View Post
    Anyone familiar with the Biotest Superfood supplement? Looking at its ingredients, it appears to be a supplement for antioxidants, but can't you get that from just having a serving of fruit and vegetables everyday?
    You'd be surprised how many people would rather pay for a supplement then eat fruit and vegetables.
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