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    ^^ This..

    World class boxers were talking about the same thing 20 years ago. The point is simply this, you don't weight train to the point of exhaustion and cause your body the type of stress that a bodybuilder does because you aren't shooting for the same goals.
    If you want to roll/spar every single day, you don't want to be worrying about your muscles repairing themselves from heavy lifting.
    I think everyone knows that moderate weightlifting is fine as part of a fighter's training regimen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hertzyscowicz View Post
    Better yet, read the linked article where one question is


    (Emphasis mine)
    I'm the same way, but backwards. I train martial arts for my looks, not to be a better fighter. All the weight training I do makes me a better fighter, but all that martial arts stuff doesn't factor in.

    Unless GSP is some sort of cyborg, he can't somehow force his body to not benefit from weight training in terms of athletic performance, and have it ONLY benefit his appearance.
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    Seeing as gains in strength can be made from as little as 2 45min-1hr workouts a week (which in my experience, CAN be done in the same day as combat training) there isn't really a reason not to do it.

    Doing Wendler's 5/3/1 has little effect on what I can do later that day after the first week.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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    Dude's cashing in on his fame obviously.
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    This GSP guy is turning into a big sap.
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    For the record, even if you don't partake in or approve of S&C it's still possible to hit hard, fast, and get the job done (no pun intended). A hard focus on proper technique training will yield impressive results due to the free time to train and drill them along with pro-endurance training. Let's not forget that hypertrophy is a popular way to generate power, not the only way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazu View Post
    For the record, even if you don't partake in or approve of S&C it's still possible to hit hard, fast, and get the job done (no pun intended). A hard focus on proper technique training will yield impressive results due to the free time to train and drill them along with pro-endurance training. Let's not forget that hypertrophy is a popular way to generate power, not the only way.
    I don't think you mean hypertrophy here, unless you're speaking specifically of myofibrillar hypertrophy.

    And I don't think anyone was debating against proper technique, just that proper technique PLUS S&C is of benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazu View Post
    For the record, even if you don't partake in or approve of S&C it's still possible to hit hard, fast, and get the job done (no pun intended). A hard focus on proper technique training will yield impressive results due to the free time to train and drill them along with pro-endurance training. Let's not forget that hypertrophy is a popular way to generate power, not the only way.
    You're wrong.

    Did you not read what GSP's trainer said? Read it again.

    Firstly, hypertrophy - and indeed any weight/resistance training is not used for generating power, S&C is used to enhance power which is generated through technique.

    Secondly, technique can only take you so far. Once you are proficient at punching there is little that can be added in the way of punching power through technique alone. However, by improving your strength and power generation mechanics through resistance training, it is possible to increase power further.

    Try reading this: Why you, as a Combat Athlete, need to be STRONG. - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

    And don't post your opinion again without an educated foundation.
    "The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero projects his fear onto his opponent while the coward runs. 'Fear'. It's the same thing, but it's what you do with it that matters". - Cus D'Amato
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