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    I beleive Wing Chun is only a subsystem of Plum Flower fist.
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    LeungJan, i don't want to get into a lineage debate with you, after all i feel that we are wing chug brothers.

    wing chun is what it is in all lineages,WING CHUN! Hung Fa Yi does not claim to be a secret system but it's lineage and steps to training were keep secret to maintain the training of the ming dynasty rebels in effort to overthrow the ching dynasty and later other martial efforts.

    well i got to go a storm is coming in,

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    You guys crack me up.


    Lineage. . .

    (snort, giggle, guffaw)
    "I had once talked to Billy Conn, the boxer, about professionals versus amateurs - specifically street fighters. One had always heard rumors of champions being taken out by back-alley fighters. Conn was scornful. "Aw, it's like hitting a girl," he said. "They're nothing."


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    "Shadow Box"

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    Of course Vargas lineage is stupid. I can just imagine the respect you would give to someone who said that they were taught by Ashida Kim.

    Question. Who would you respect most? Someone taught by Ashida Kim, or someone taught by Cung Le?

    See, lineage IS important.

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    Grandmaster Garrett Gee released these secrets to the public so as not to lose the system withen the secret socities of china as he was ask to do by his own instructor Wong Ming.

    Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun Kuen is the finished results of the Shaolin Monks and Ming Dynasty high leavel Warriors,1200 years of in the field and in the kwoon study and research development.It is truly a science.
    Stop being gay.

    WT/WC/VT are not complete systems.

    Question. Who would you respect most? Someone taught by Ashida Kim, or someone taught by Cung Le?
    Christ, isn't there some other choice?

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    MrMcFu, or should I say Shaggy, this isn't a debate about complete systems.

    You think Cung Le is no good? Insert someone else you think is good then. Makes no odds. The principle of the example still stands.

    You say in your info box that you are BJJ/Shooto (wha..?), so without lineage how do we know you aren't some punk who watched a video once. After all your avatar shows someone who looks like they starred in a certain Saturday morning cartoon once.

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    this isn't a debate about complete systems.
    See WhiteShark's post

    You think Cung Le is no good? Insert someone else you think is good then. Makes no odds. The principle of the example still stands.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sarcasm

    so without lineage how do we know you aren't some punk who watched a video once.
    Because I know what works and what doesn't since my **** is not too deadly to test at close to full speed

    Thanks for noticing my picture. Where's yours?

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    FYI I don't have a 'deadly' excuse whatsoever. I'm quite happy to test myself against anyone. I also don't have a problem training full speed and power. The opposite of which is a myth perpetuated by one or two people who do think that way.

    Sarcasm? Sorry, text doesn't have a tone of voice.

    My photo? Don't have one, and the number of posts I have made don't allow me to have a custom avatar anyway. Too much of a life to lead to post here often.

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    PS, you only know what works within the realms of the training you have done. Unless you go outside of that to try new things you can't say for certain that what you do is the only thing that works.

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    I didn't say you did or didn't. I answered your question. Obviously you are on the defensive. Have a good day.

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