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  1. krazy kaju is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/24/2007 5:10pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    How many years of TSD? What belt/rank/level?

    How does your martial experience compare to what Wick teaches?

    What does Wick teach (what techniques, considering that it isn't strikes, locks, or throws)?

    P.S. Omega, the original poster, is a Kung Fu instructor and a former professional MMA fighter. He also holds rank in Judo and SAMBO. HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
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    Posted On:
    10/24/2007 6:48pm

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    I would never claim omega doesnt know what hes talking about , cause I dont know him and havnt had the chance to read the plethora of posts he has made .
    I have posted in the intro part of the forums all of the info accept for the differences in wicks style and TSD. I am a cho dan bo (black belt candidate) almost three years, no expert and I dont claim to use my time in TSD as a credential for knowing WTF im talking about.
    I dont put these words out as fact you should believe, just what I saw and experienced.

    Larry's teaching revolves around mental redirection, he shows a victim or attacked person how to not "wake" a person up when performing the techniques, if you've seen the videos you see him put his hands in the air first, very important because you want the attacker to feel in control. Larry also teaches to move without flinching, cause this again "wakes up the attacker. His method doesnt have any strikes or puches for the same reason, useing force against the attacker (especialy if they are bigger than you ) will enrage them and force them to hurt you. By not hitting them or waking them up in any way you have more of a head start on finishing the attacker off before they even figure out you've moved.
    For some of the knife removal techniques there is a sort of grab he teaches that immobilizes the knife from cutting you, you dont take it away and fight over the knife , instead you stop them from making the cut while you either turn and run or finnish them off with a dissarmerment. the reason for not fighting over the knife is you want to get away as quick as possible for survival reasons, there might be someone else coming to help rob you or whatever.
    In my style TSD we learn alot of unrealistic knife removal techniques that when practiced you get the sh@t cut out of you. When we added the method wick taught us you get away and you get the knife :)
    If I have broken any more noob rules please tell me, I dont want all of you hating me, or tearing me up for years.lol
    any more questions I will answer as long as your serious and not just trying to bait me for an exciting thread. lol
  3. Boyd is offline
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    Posted On:
    10/24/2007 9:08pm

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    It's pretty much impossible to defend any guy that claims he can justify seventy dollars for 2 88 minute DVDs by claiming to be able to groups of larger attackers in one second and slaughter every other martial art UNLESS that guy actually can defeat groups of attackers in one second and slaughter every other martial art.

    Now granted, I haven't done the requisite Internet detective work, so I hope you'll forgive my "bias" Bassai. It's just, well, I figure if someone invented a revolutionary new method of completely and instantly obliterating every other form of hand-to-hand combat in ONE SECOND I'm inclined to believe one of two things:

    1) The person making these claims is lying, or

    2) Through some catastrophic series of mistakes, this world-changing event has gone fully unreported, not only by various martial publications, but by the media and, concordantly, mankind as a whole. If he's truly uncovered some incredible fighting ability so great it renders all unarmed combat prior to this useless this guy ought to be Time's Man of the Year.

    Now tell me Bassai, which scenario do you think is more likely?

    (CONFIDENTIAL TO OMEGA: **** you and **** S.A.M.B.O. so many, many times over for the atrocious formatting job in the first post. Reading that **** is reading a South Park fanfic written by a third grader who just railed his third line of Ritalin.)
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    1) I am STRAIGHT! I am STRAIGHT! Get it through your thick skulls, numbskulls!

    2) My name is not Ian Brandon Something.

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  4. Warlock is offline

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    Posted On:
    10/24/2007 9:36pm

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    @bassaiWTSDA

    I do have a few honest questions. The original blurb doesnt seem to jibe with what you are saying. Your immobilization technique sounds like a lock. What's the difference?

    Also why not automatically proceed with a disarm once you have your opponent's weapon immobilized? If you intend to flee, you would have to release thier weapon, and it kinda seems risky to do so with an armed (and now angry) opponent chasing you down. Sounds like a recipe for a knife in the back or something.

    How does this technique work against multiple unarmed or armed opponents? And can it realistically be done in one second? Have you neutralized an armed, resisting opponent in one second using this technique?
    Last edited by Warlock; 10/24/2007 9:38pm at .
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    Posted On:
    10/24/2007 10:53pm

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    Do I really have to be here for this discussion? I'm really not in the mood for hypocritical posturing today. Check out new story in Omegenisms to understand what I'm talking about, I'll probably put it up sometime this week.
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    Posted On:
    10/25/2007 12:34am

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    Ok bassaiWTSDA this is the second thread you have bumped about Larry. Obviously you think he was attacked unfairly. What Omega posted is directly from Larry's advertising, minus the humor Omega inserted, do you agree what Larry's system "slaughters" all others systems, that “Nobody has seen anything like this before” and that “Every move takes out your opponent in ONE SECOND”

    Yes or no?
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    10/25/2007 7:13am


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    After raising a long-dead thread, would you care to supply some evidence? Example: explain in detail what is contained in the course you have taken (twice). How do you get past the shot? How much distance was there between you and the gunman?

    Oh, yeah... no strikes, no kicks.. no grappling... ****, what is this guy, a god?
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