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    Rafe reads too much Zorro, hence this stupid question

    Hi,

    I am looking for historical illustrations of "fencing circles",
    like from old German Fechtbuch pictures.

    Can someone of you people in the know please point me to a source for this?

    I googled a bit, but found no original scans.

    Thanks,

    Rafe

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    Specific to Zorro, you're probably looking for the Renaissance era and later Spanish circles. Luckily for you, there is a huge amount of info. on them only a click away:

    http://www.martinez-destreza.com/articles/spanish1.htm
    http://www.martinez-destreza.com/articles/spanish2.htm
    http://www.martinez-destreza.com/articles/spanish3.htm
    http://sjaqua.tripod.com/spanishc.htm
    http://matthewhowden.wordpress.com/c...leiden-circle/



    Note that the representation of the "training circle, or master's wheel" in the Antonio Banderas movie was a very loose adaptation inspired by the actual, historical tradition of the "mysterious circle".

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    Ve a Hispagimnasios y preguntale a Jaime G. Dile que vas de mi parte.

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    Thank you kindly!

    Apart from being interested in the topic from a historical perspective,
    I am, the big kid that I am, looking for a martial arts related tattoo,
    and since I despise the usual kanji tats, I thought of something more related
    to Western MA. :cat:

    @ DCS: Muchas gracias! Estás hablando de esa pagina, no? -

    http://www.hispagimnasios.com/

    No sabía que existía algo así en español! Me servirá muy bien en el futuro. :D

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    I once met a guy who had Thibault's fencing circle tattooed on his shoulder ... impressive stuff.


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    A tatt should have a special significance to you. It shouldn't just be some idiotic bling that you have permanently stenciled on your body.

    I don't talk about mine much, but I understand your reluctance to have a coffee-shop-chic permanent mark.

    Thibault's Circle sounds pretty groovy as a tatt.

    Peace favor your sword,
    Kirk

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    Yeah, that's exactly the problem.
    Every retard out there seems to have either a samurai, or the osu-symbol on his body.

    While this is very nice, I am, with all the respect, not an Asian, nor a Buddhist, nor anyway other than very superficially familiar with Japanese or Chinese culture.
    It would seem very disrespectful to me to tattoo myself anything related to that and not knowing exactly what it means.

    So, for a fencing ring, I go. - Actually, I am favoring Carranza's circle right now, but if can point me to more artistical depictions, I'll be very happy. :)

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