Posted On:3/04/2004 11:18am
I'm just curious how have judo guys done in the ufc besides yoshida that is. I herd Gene Lebell had 1 or 2 guys who were doing fairly well there was an article in Black Belt Magazine on 2 of em. The one was from lebell's camp not sure about the other i just skimmed the article.
edit: should have written this in combat sports discussion sorry.
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Posted On:3/04/2004 11:25am
Style: Muay Thai & BJJ
Karo Parissian is Lebells student. He fights hard and wins by submission. He is also a good striker. He lost his last fight to a tough UFC middle weight. George St Pierre.
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Posted On:3/04/2004 12:27pm
Style: BJJ, Karate,
St. Pierre is a blue belt in BJJ.
Juso is lacking in alot of the areas that make MMA so tough to compete in. Namely Juso always uses a gi, a match is broken up if you have a lock on a person and he stands up, a throw wins the contest, you have limited time on the mat, and there is no striking.
I know people will argue otherwise but they're basically full of shiit.
The very thing that made Judo so effective is that Kano removed all techniques he felt couldnt be practiced full force and with 100% resistance to them, making Judo great for the street but at a disandvantage in MMA.
Skinny Royce Gracie just owned world Judo champion Yoshido like a little bitch, taking his back and pounding him at will. Theres a saying in Japan, "You cant lose as long as you fight". The crowd didnt even applaud Yoshido when he left because of his poor performance.
He was also listed at 220lbs and Royce just under 180lbs.
That and hes a WORLD Judo champion and Royce's BJJ was NEVER even on a world class level.
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Posted On:3/04/2004 12:31pm
Correction, Yoshida never competed in the UFC. He competed in Pride.
Judo guys have been in MMA from the begining and have done very well. Most pple know only of Parison and Yoshida because pple made a big deal about them doing Judo. But alot of fighters have an extensive Judo background. Yoshida wasn't the first Judo guy to fight in PRIDE, Kazunari Murakami was. Yoshida was just the first Olympic Gold medalist to fight in MMA.
Don't worry you'll get used to PD.:P I own BJJ guys like popcorn and I am not alone. The only thing better than being a Judo guy is being a wrestler. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT! :D (enought of the flames!) Pple like to throw Royce into everything. Royce grew up fighting he comes form a family of fighters that kinda give him a edge on pple who didn't .
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Posted On:3/04/2004 12:36pm
Parisyan isnt Judo, he's kickboxing/judo/sambo.
There havent been to many straight Judo guys. Most of them have cross trained. I think that Remco Pardoel and Christophe Leninger were one of the only 2 that fought straight Judo and did well.
Posted On:3/04/2004 12:37pm
PD EVERYONE CROSSTRAINS. There hasn't been many straight BJJ guys either. No won survives anymore being a purist. Even the Gracies were not purist they crosstrained as well before UFC.
Posted On:3/04/2004 12:39pm
Royce was a straight BJJ guy in the early UFC's. You mean everyone crosstrains NOW. Remco WAS a straight Judo guy, just like Leninger.
Posted On:3/04/2004 12:41pm
I beg to differ. Royce and the other Gracies had trained other arts growing up before the UFC.
Posted On:3/04/2004 12:46pm
What other arts? Where did you find this? I've never heard of this.
Posted On:3/04/2004 12:47pm
Whats more, if thats true WHO taught them those other arts?
I'm sure the person who trained Royce Gracie before the UFC would not be shy about it.
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