11/11/2010 1:22pm, #31Originally Posted by Neo Sigma
in my mind, cody lost the first round strategically because he did more harm to himself than nam did.
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in MMA we see a lot of fighters who are of a high level in a particular style, but we don't necessarily see them winning every match with techniques from that style. they don't even fight the way we'd expect.
you can't do "perfect" boxing, BJJ, muay thai, karate, judo or whatever. each of these styles needs to be adapted slightly because things will happen which really throw a spanner in the works.
i think that sako just didn't feel a judo throw was "there for the taking".
i'm kinda tired so i hope that makes sense.
11/11/2010 1:27pm, #32
11/11/2010 1:34pm, #33
No I haven't, I had a look at wikipedia and it seems Karo was doing most of his fighting - 04,05,06,07 - I was still in school then and didn't even know the UFC existed lol, let alone who was in it.
I don't expect Judoka to walk up to an MMA opponent throw them with a massive technique and then slide effortless into an arm lock, but I do expect to see a Judoka using Judo to try and control fights, score points and look to get dominant position or at the very least actually use some Judo. I don't think you often see Thai boxers, BJJ-ers and wrestlers go into an MMA match and not at least use their core skill set at least a few times.
Yeh like I said earlier its very easy to say should'a would'a could'a from the comfort of a sofa whilst sipping a beer its completely another thing to be there in octagon. Also we may be totally underestimating Brookins base and takedown defense he seemed to shrug of Sako's few footsweep techniques pretty easily.
11/11/2010 1:59pm, #34
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Check out this sweet throw from from Rick Hawn in Bellator (start at about 1:16). There's some Judo for you!
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11/11/2010 2:26pm, #35
11/11/2010 3:15pm, #36
You know working together I think we could really be onto something here maybe we should start our own programme with online belt testing etc...
I know everyone is saying Sako is high level Judo but I had actually never heard of him in my life before TUF and even when they said he was a Judo guy it was only then that I looked him up on Judoinside he isn't on there.... There's a 'Sarkis', which could easily be him and if it is and the record on Judoinside is correct then he never actually won anything major and the competitions he did win 2nd and 3rds in aren't considered that highly international.
I'm sure he's a much much better Judoka than I am and he'd definitely own me in an MMA match, but compared to the elite level of Judoka he's not on the radar.
Sevak Magakian doesn't even feature on Judoinside, which means he probbaly hasn't achieved anything much in elite Judo.
Again taking nothing away from either fighter they've got bigger balls than me to have done what they've done and get to where they are, but in terms of their Judo they don't seem to be as world class or as high level as they've been hyped up to be.
11/11/2010 3:21pm, #37
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11/12/2010 5:05am, #38
11/12/2010 2:41pm, #39There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers. (Strategy game truism)