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  1. Darren WCK is offline

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    Legend of Heroes: China vs Thailand 2010, Muay Thai 3, Sanda 2

    I don't see anyone mentioning this event on the forums, so I'll write a report on the fight. Perhaps not many knew because the news were mostly in Chinese. So here it is:

    The China-Thailand match for 2010 was held on October 9 in Genting Highlands, Malaysia. This is the 1st time the competition was held in a neutral country (no more excuses!), and there were 7 judges, coming from 4 countries, and 3 organizations, including WBC Muay Thai.

    The event consisted of 5 Sino-Thai fights, and 3 superfights. All fights were under K-1 rules except for the 1st Sino-Thai fight, which was under MMA rules. The results are as follows:

    Sino-Thai Fights:

    1. Yang Jianping (China) def. Somsak Khaodaeng (Thai) via 1st round KO
    2. Xu Yan (China) def. Malaipet Sasiprapa (Thai) via decision
    3. Lamsongkram Chuwatana (Thai) def. Cao Yaomin (China) via decision
    4. Detbanjong Fairtex (Thai) def. Kang En (China) via 2nd round KO
    5. Yodsanklai Fairtex (Thai) def. Wang Guan (China) via decision

    Superfights:

    1. Khoo Meng Yang (Malaysia) def. Daiji Kaneoka (Japan) via decision
    2. Naruepol Fairtex (Thai) def. Toshiya Kurenai (Japan) by Decision
    3. Ky Hollenbeck (USA) def. Shawn Lee (Malaysia) by 1st round KO

    What happened is that China initially led the fight by 2-0, but then lost as the MT fighters catched up, eventually getting a 3-2. It seems Muay Thai fighters are still better than their Sanda counterparts overall.

    I also heard from someone who actually watched the fight that Yodsanklai completely owned Wang Guan, who was the 71kg national MT champ in China for 2008 and 2009, and the 2009 WKA 70kg champ. But then, he's Yodsanklai!

    However, this event may also show that the Thais need to improve their groundfighting, as Somsak got KO'ed by Yang Jianping through GnP in 1:45.

    These are my thoughts anyway. What do you guys think?

    The Official Site: http://www.legendofhero.com/site/ (it's in Chinese though)
    Last edited by Darren WCK; 11/02/2010 11:58pm at . Reason: spelling errors
  2. Darren WCK is offline

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    Some Chinese news articles on the fight. Enjoy the pics.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren WCK View Post
    Some Chinese news articles on the fight. Enjoy the pics.







    Is that mainstream press?
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    Yup, all of them are. I can't find any English papers reporting it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren WCK View Post
    However, this event may also show that the Thais need to improve their groundfighting, as Somsak got KO'ed by Yang Jianping through GnP in 1:45.

    Yeah. Isn't that the only reason we still haven't seen any Thais in MMA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by excludedmiddle View Post
    Yeah. Isn't that the only reason we still haven't seen any Thais in MMA?
    True. The Thais should try to learn BJJ/Judo/wrestling etc. or they're still gonna get owned in the next Sino-Thai fight. Especially if China keeps asking for more MMA-style fights.
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    Why are all MT vs (blank) fights never under MT rules? I mean no knees to face, elbows, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickeroon1987 View Post
    Why are all MT vs (blank) fights never under MT rules? I mean no knees to face, elbows, etc.
    Apart from the "teh elbows are too deadly" reason, I think a possible reason could be that many people would think that fights ending up with cuts and blood are "too violent". So the organizers ban elbows to increase viewers (and profits).

    Just a hypothesis.
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    if they're under K-1 rules, does this mean that the Chinese fighters can no longer spam command throws like they did in the old China/Thai fights? I forgot exactly what the K-1 rules on takedowns are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMcClaw View Post
    if they're under K-1 rules, does this mean that the Chinese fighters can no longer spam command throws like they did in the old China/Thai fights? I forgot exactly what the K-1 rules on takedowns are.
    Well according to K-1 site, it states in Article 6: Foul Techniques (http://www.k-1.co.jp/en/what/rules.html) that "Delivering wrestling or judo throwing or submission techniques" are banned. The official site also states that "all throws are strictly banned". At least this makes the fights fair enough.

    However, by banning elbows and throws, can this still be considered Muay Thai vs Sanda? :bduh: More like "Guys from China & Thailand fight K-1/MMA style".
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