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  1. Shamash is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZ View Post
    This is terrible..

    We had a case here in Ontario a few years back where a teacher was acquitted of molestation charges against a boy so the boy's father went and broke the teacher's kneecaps with a baseball bat.
    He got less than two years..the diddler never walked without a cane again.

    How do you know he was a diddler? If he was acquitted wouldn't that imply there wasn't enough evidence to reasonably assume he was guilty. I'm all for severe punishments for predators who ruin the lives of children but breaking the kneecaps of everyone accused of a heinous crime is slippery slope with a lot of potential for abuse.
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    While we are on the subject of predators and victims I would like to draw people's attention to a very serious situation in which a girl of 16 was sentenced to life without possibility of parole for killing the pimp who started to groom her aged 11 years and who raped her and forced her to work as a prostitute when she was just 13 years old. The pimp was in his 30s when he raped her and turned her out.

    Sixteen-year-old human trafficking victim Sara Kruzan was sentenced to life in prison without parole when, in a desperate act to escape captivity, she shot her pimp. When Sara met G.G., the 31-year-old man who would become her pimp, she was only 11. G.G. groomed Sara two years before he raped her. By then, his control was complete and he forced her into prostitution. Sara and the other girls who G.G. exploited were out on the streets from 6pm to 6am, every night. Twelve hours a night, seven days a week, for three years, Sara was raped by strangers so G.G. could profit. After three years, she snapped, and she killed him.

    Now 32, Sara has spent half her life in prison as a model prisoner, and has asked Gov. Schwarzenegger for clemency. Sara was arrested and tried in 1994, before anyone was using the term "human trafficking" and when the country was still struggling to understand issues like domestic violence and pimp control that give one person coercive control over another. So there was no expert witness at Sara's trial to explain how her years of repeated rape, trauma, and abuse had affected her actions. There was no expert to tell the jury that with counseling, support, and care, Sara could heal from her traumatic past and grow to be a strong and moral woman.

    Sara's clemency plea has been submitted to Gov. Schwarzenegger, and the decision of whether or not to release her with time served rests solely with him. Sara Kruzan deserves hope. She deserves hope that she didn't survive being raped and sold for three years for nothing. She deserves hope that the darkest chapter of her life has passed, and a horizon lies ahead. She deserves hope that she can change, grow, and flourish as a woman. But in life without parole, there is no hope.

    Tell Gov. Schwarzenegger that human trafficking victims deserve support and care, not prison. Ask him to release Sara with time served.
    This video just breaks my heart

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7mno6p9iQ


    petition here

    http://www.change.org/petitions/view...th_time_served
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    This story is a bit similar to this movie from 1996. Boys get in trouble, go to troubled boy's school, get raped/beaten by guards, leave, grow up, become various things (lawyers, gangsters), exact revenge as a group on the people who abused them years later.

    Recommended viewing for two reasons: Robert and DeNiro.



    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117665/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    Just how common is sexual abuse of children, anyway?
    Do some research, if you have to ask that question the answer is going to freak you out.

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    wrong quote ... ooops.
    Last edited by BackFistMonkey; 11/19/2010 2:31pm at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamash View Post
    How do you know he was a diddler? If he was acquitted wouldn't that imply there wasn't enough evidence to reasonably assume he was guilty. I'm all for severe punishments for predators who ruin the lives of children but breaking the kneecaps of everyone accused of a heinous crime is slippery slope with a lot of potential for abuse.
    So you think the kid was lying to his father?
    He got off on a technicality..not because he was innocent.
    " If one wants to have a friend one must also want to wage war for him: and to wage war one must be capable of being an enemy." - Fr. Nietzsche 'On The Friend' Thus Spake Zarathustra
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