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  1. patfromlogan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Stretching and warming up = waste of time

    Omega's log mentioned that he warmed up sparring. Right on. I do that too. I start a little slow and then speed up and get sweaty. Works great. If there's no one to spar I do twenty can cans and twenty spinning leg raises (like heel to opponent's chin),twenty side lifts, and some arm circles. Then I'm ready to go for it. Works great.

    And I think stretching before class is a total waste of time. Maybe do some dynamic stuff afterwords, but before a workout I think it just increases the chances of injury (though it does give people a chance to chat). In the two schools I've been going to here (and the two I went to in Hawaii this Jan) there are people sitting around doing dynamic stretches (wasting time with harmful dull boring activity) and people doing moves to warm up (getting sweaty and actually doing martial arts at the same time!). Take your choice.

    By the way, I'm 54, 240, 6'2", and I can kick my own face level cold.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    So what's your opinion of yoga? Some people swear by it to loosen them up.

    It looks like self imposed torture to me.
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    Man, I've said that for a while myself, but then I get slapped down that if you don't stretch/warm up you have an increased chance of injury. I do my best stretching after class anyway.
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Kyokushin Karate

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I usually do some light shadowboxing (no kicks, maybe knees as thats not too bad for me) followed by some simple joint loosening exercises and thats about it. I save my serious stretching routines after a heavy workout, usually right before bed is when I do my serious stuff.
  5. Mr. Mantis is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I think you're all crazy.

    No! You're mutants! Whose muscles and joints are resistant to injury.

    But yeah, it doesn't take much to be ready, and it can lead to procrastination in training, which is bad.
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  6. Judah Maccabee is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Krav / (Kick)Boxing / BJJ

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I am unable to comfortably kick at chest level on a 5'9 person without 20 minutes of static stretching and shadowboxing. 10 mins of each.

    Stretch first, shadowbox second, then I'm good to go. Then I spend about 15 mins after the workout stretching hard to loosen up and to try to boost my flexibility.
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    A warm up = absolute necessity.
    Stretching before a warm up = increased risk of injury
    Static stretching after a warm up = ok, but not necessarily the best.
    Dynamic stretching after a warm up = much better.
    Static Stretching after a workout as part of cool down = great idea.
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  8. AFS is offline

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have changed the way I run classes with regards to the warm up -
    I don't do much running or push ups or stuff like that anymore.
    We warm up mainly with low resistance drills.
    Like simple turn overs in the ground or ground work randori with low resistance.
    And than slowly build the intensity up.
    That way you have more specific mat time.
    If you want to run or do push ups, do that outside class.
    Stretching only at the end of the class.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Good for you AFS.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Whats the difference between static and dynamic stretching?
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