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  1. Holy Moment is online now
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    Some background on these fighters:

    Gregory Smit was an amateur wrestling champion from Australian who also trained with Karl Gotch. He was never very successful and retired with a record of 2-11-0.

    This was Takafumi Ito's debut fight. He was a promising newcomer and even won the Pancrase Neo-Blood tournament (Which was for less experienced fighters). It looks like his career took a downward spiral after he fought Frank Shamrok, but it picked back up eventually. He still fights in Pancrase to this day.
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    It's nice to see that Shoot Wrestling still exists and isn't completely replaced by Shooto.
    What's the difference? Personally I wouldn't be so sure about saying it still exists. That video's gotta be from the mid nineties at the latest.
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    My original title for the video was actually "Manly Wrestling Match." I changed it to annoy people who think they're about to get some girl-on-girl action (And to get more views).

    I'm not unconfident about my sexuality. If I was, I wouldn't own so many god-damn Pancrase videos. And for the record, I think their colorful speedos and shinguards are the pinnacle of MMA fashion.
    My apologies.

    I thought that some kiddo had uploaded a shoot wrestling match without knowing the context, didn't occured to me that it was meant as a joke. (And that you just found it on youtube)

    I should stop reading youtube comments because they are destroying my fate in humanity ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiujitsu77
    You know you are crazy about BJJ/Martial arts when...
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    ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
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    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindz View Post
    What's the difference? Personally I wouldn't be so sure about saying it still exists. That video's gotta be from the mid nineties at the latest.
    in a nutshell:

    Shoot Wrestling was the original name of the style. In the beginning it was entirely based on catch wrestling and no-gi Judo. Later on techniques from other arts were integrated into it, mostly from striking styles (Muay Thai, Boxing, Karate), so the style changed but not the name.

    When the original Japanese wrestling federation split up into different federations, the stylist of each certain era of shoot wrestling sticked together to form a style.
    - Shoot Wrestling (1): 'real' catch wrestling/submission wrestling
    - Shoot Wrestling (2): submission wrestling with strikes
    - Shooto: MMA type of fighting/style with a focus about bringing your opponent to the ground to finish him (Erik Paulson's CSW is the best known form of Shooto)
    - Pancrase: see Bas Rutten
    - Shoot Boxing: Muay Thai with hip and shoulder throws and wrestling takedowns, no groundfight. In the style of Sanda and Draka
    - Shoot Fighting: American style, but I don't know what the focus on the fighting is.

    You (almost) can't fight the Shoot Wrestling that is purely based on grappling (catch and no-gi Judo) anymore, which is a shame because it would make a good combination with Greco-Roman and Freestyle Wrestling as the third version of wrestling.
    'Catch' has got nowadays a tainted reputation since it has become associated with pro-wrestling, so Shoot Wrestling would fill the gap without carrying this reputation with it.
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    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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    Do you have other Shoot Wrestling vids in your collection?
    I would love to see some more since it's another take on submission wrestling than grappling.
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    ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
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    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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    I have loads of Pancrase videos. I've upload quite a few on Youtube.
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    Good control by Ito. I think Smit pinned himself twice. Ito could have popped his knee had he been so inclined.

    Well done Ito.
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