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  1. 94m is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by battlefields View Post
    I'm not sure stronglifts5x5 will be your best option if that is what you are already squatting, unless that is your 1RM. Also, stronglifts advocates lifting the weight quickly, so read deeper.

    If you can easily do 255 squats at 170 for 5 sets of 5, you may want to check out the stronglifts intermediate program or even another one that I think Emevas does or recommends, correct me if I'm wrong, bro, but is it Pavels?
    Those are my maxes, I cannot do more than one of each. I didn't read far enough into the stronglifts yet, it's still printing.
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    Normally I wouldn't double post, but I couldn't edit mine for some reason.

    Anyways, finished researching a good bit on the 5x5, one thing that seems to baffle me is the "Do 5 sets of 5 reps with the same weight on all exercises."
    Did I read/type that right? So, should I start out doing 190 on everything, because I know I will not be able to bench as much as I can squat or deadlift so I will have to lower the weight to at least 190.

    Is this right?
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    They're straight set 5x5. Follow the faq on initial loading: http://stronglifts.com/forum/strongl...3.html#p214187

    It'll seem too low at first, but that's okay. It's linear progression so the weights will get heavier quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94m View Post
    Normally I wouldn't double post, but I couldn't edit mine for some reason.

    Anyways, finished researching a good bit on the 5x5, one thing that seems to baffle me is the "Do 5 sets of 5 reps with the same weight on all exercises."
    Did I read/type that right? So, should I start out doing 190 on everything, because I know I will not be able to bench as much as I can squat or deadlift so I will have to lower the weight to at least 190.

    Is this right?
    No, read it like this

    Do 5 sets of 5 reps (with the same weight) on all exercises

    Meaning you aren't shifting the weight up or down. For bench, you do 5x5 of 190, not 1 set of 190, 1 of 180, 1 of 200, 1 of 210, 1 of 170.
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    I ment, do I do 190 for squat 190 for bench and 190 for deadlift, because he said all exercises?

    But, I understand now, 5 reps of 190 for my bench for 5 sets
    5 reps of 2__ for squat for 5 sets etc...
    Thanks I get it now.
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    Start lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94m View Post
    I ment, do I do 190 for squat 190 for bench and 190 for deadlift, because he said all exercises?

    But, I understand now, 5 reps of 190 for my bench for 5 sets
    5 reps of 2__ for squat for 5 sets etc...
    Thanks I get it now.
    I knew what you meant, that's why I was explaining it to you.
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    For years (30?) I've been lifting weights, and for most of those years, I followed a bodybuilding type routine with the usual 8-12 reps, train to failure, etc. That worked fine for me until I started doing martial arts about a year ago.

    Doing a bodybuilding type routine I found myself fatigued, sore, and after a few kicking drills, my legs would feel like lead.

    I started doing the SS routine about 6 months ago and there is QUITE a noticeable difference, not only in terms of strength, but I've also noticed better endurance, no soreness, no aches, etc.

    Bodybuilding type workouts are great...for bodybuilders, but in my experience, they were more detrimental for me in conjunction with martial arts than helpful.
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    Was it not obvious that the general consensus did not endorse anything to do with bodybuilding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAFMAS View Post
    For years (30?) I've been lifting weights, and for most of those years, I followed a bodybuilding type routine with the usual 8-12 reps, train to failure, etc. That worked fine for me until I started doing martial arts about a year ago.

    Doing a bodybuilding type routine I found myself fatigued, sore, and after a few kicking drills, my legs would feel like lead.

    I started doing the SS routine about 6 months ago and there is QUITE a noticeable difference, not only in terms of strength, but I've also noticed better endurance, no soreness, no aches, etc.

    Bodybuilding type workouts are great...for bodybuilders, but in my experience, they were more detrimental for me in conjunction with martial arts than helpful.
    How in God's name are you still benefitting from a linear progressive model after 30 years of training?
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