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  1. Unchain Circle is offline

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    John Painter's Jiulong Baguazhang "Magnetic Body Skills" Seminar

    Magnetic Body Skills

    Internal Skills of Jiulong Baguazhang




    Magnetic Body: A Li Family Neigong Art

    A Seminar With John P. Painter, PhD

    Legends tell of an amazing martial ability that allowed an internal
    martial art master to control the movements of his enemy with the
    lightest of touch and in come cases without touching him at all. These
    legends that seem like magic are in fact true. The secret however is not
    magic, but a subtle manipulation of an individual's nervous system by
    the master. Dr. John Painter of the Li family Daoqiquan lineage was
    taught these amazing skills as a boy by Grand Master Li, Long-dao. He is
    presenting this amazing art in a workshop entitled Magnetic Body Skills.
    Come learn the truth behind the legend and discover that with just a
    small amount of practice you to can use your Magnetic Body Skills on
    others. This is an ideal skill for anyone in any style of martial art
    and also for body-workers who want to go more deeply into their ability
    to "touch" the client.

    Date: Friday, December 17, 2010
    Time: 7-10 P.M.
    Location: Boston Ultimate Fitness
    33 Harrison Ave. 7th Floor
    Boston, MA 02111

    Cost: $65.00
    Beginners Welcome!

    Please join us for this exciting event!

    Also, on Saturday and Sunday, December 18 and 19th, we will begin our
    examination of using Yi Xin Gong material of Jiulong Baguazhang with walking and moving.
    Beginners are welcome, but you must attend Saturday's session to take part in Sunday's training.

    For more information visit http://www.bostonbaguazhang.com or call 617-595-8097 or email info@bostonbaguazhang.com
    Cliff Notes:

    Thread Here: This thread is way too good to be kept on the internal martial arts forum... - Kung Fu Magazine Forums

    1. And individual with the username "MysteriousPower," questioning the validity of these claims made a thread on the KFM (kungfumagazine) forums. He was subsequently mostly chewed out by members who regarded his initial post as "hate-mongering" or something of that nature. Many people who defended the validity of John Painter are friends or acquaintances of Dale Dugas, Painter's disciple and the one who originally posted this seminar.

    2. Dale Dugas has openly invited "doubters" to attend the Seminar. He has offered two free invitations for two members of KFM forums. First "knifefighter" (Dale "Island Dog" Franks, Dog Brothers/former full-contact fighter). Second "MysteriousPower" the individual who started the thread and was "called out" to go attend this seminar for real.

    Now, due to the nature of everything that transpired between TCMA people who claim that these skills "might" be true, TCMA people who claim that these skills are "Bullshido," MMA people who claim these skills are "Bullshido," and the people who are vehemently defending the validity of John Painter's skills (and I guess by extension Dale Dugas who of course defends the validity of his teacher).

    I feel that if the Bullshido community was interested in stepping up and investigating this matter, the skills of Dr. John Painter's "magnetic body skills" then we would actually shed EMPIRICAL LIGHT on this matter. It would be most wonderful if some of our MMA or full-contact fighters (competitive ones would be even better) stepped up to the plate for the investigations.

    The following are videos of Dr. John Painter's demonstrations of technique, power, etc:

    YouTube - Baguazhang Knock Outs Nine Dragon Baguazhang

    YouTube - Jiulong Baguazhang VS Three Opponents

    YouTube - Bagua Jiulong Heaven Palm Basic Applications
  2. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Okay, read this link thoroughly:
    http://www.bullshido.org/Investigation_Guidelines

    Dale Dugas posts here and while people do not agree with everything he states, he is a respected poster by quite a few of us. Yes, me included.

    So, instead of bringing KFO drama here, please set up a legit MABS thread.

    Yes, those videos have been discussed as well as his breaking videos.

    Since you are a noob at the search function, he has asked multiple people to come to his school/home. At this time no one has so, how about you step up instead of offering up bullshido posters that are MMA fighters?
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  3. BackFistMonkey is online now
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    Posted On:
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    I too respect and like Dale Dugas.

    Part of the reason IS the "crazy" that seems to follow him around like a smelly puppy.

    I would like to see this thread turned into a MABS thread. So the topic can be maturely discussed and approached. Doing it in YMAS does nothing for anyone and limits the potential of every aspect but the LULZ.

    If I want LULZ from Dale I will send him a durrtie email and pictures of myself naked.
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    Posted On:
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    Then help the guy set it up. Implying "hey, go to his seminar and fight" with nothing detailing what is fraudulent, mystical bullshit, lies, and questionable is not MABS worthy.

    Also, weren't you in his Jow/Breaking thread?

    This was moved from MABS because it is **** talking Drama from KFO.
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    Posted On:
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    As it is presented it doesn't belong in MABS. I agree with it being moved a hundred percent and I hope Unchain Circle got a warning for it.

    If I feel I can sit and type for a few uninterrupted minutes I wouldl be happy to help Unchain Circle organize and clarify his points.

    Unchain Circle drop me a PM if you want some help and I will see what I can do. You are going to have to work real hard to pin point and dissect the claims you disagree with.

    Dale sent me some Tiger Exits Forest jow. It smells awesome (if you like earthy hippy stuff ) and seemed to help with muscle spasms/cramps/tension. I haven't used it more than a couple times.

    I do not remember his breaking thread at this time.
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    Posted On:
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    Wait, wait.

    Dale posts about a seminar.

    Pseudonymous posters challenge Dale—one directly, one indirectly.

    Dale accepts the challenges

    The indirect challenger poops himself.

    And the OP here starts a thread about Dale?
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington View Post
    Wait, wait.

    Dale posts about a seminar.

    Pseudonymous posters challenge Dale—one directly, one indirectly.

    Dale accepts the challenges

    The indirect challenger poops himself.

    And the OP here starts a thread about Dale?
    Like I said OP is going to have to work REAL hard to pin point and nail down wtf he disagrees with and what the problem is.

    I thought the free tickets were very nice of his teacher.

    I wish I was in Boston cause this looks like a lot of fun on a lot of levels.
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    Posted On:
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    Well, I get grief for not being constructive but, that's what I meant by DRAMA.

    Thank you Rivington.
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    Posted On:
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    Dale looks like a tough dude, he could probably kick ass using pilates if he wanted to.
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    Posted On:
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    It is funny that all these unknown net ghosts slander and libel myself and my teacher and when invited to come and experience first hand what I can do, and can replicate on anyone, anytime and anywhere, I get vilified for teaching magical crap.

    For the record, no one from Bullshido nor any other forum has ever ventured forth to come visit me for friend or foe.

    Not that I want to start trouble with anyone, but if you want proof I can provide it on all levels for all people.

    It is simple. He challenged me, the challenge was answered and now all the back peddling begins.

    Funny that he came here as well. Did he not think I was not here, and that it would go unanswered?







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