Remember that infamous 'womens' self-defense neck break' video?
Well, I went to find it on YouTube again this morning, thinking of linking it in this site's video section - basically for the lulz.
This is it, for those who don't know it:
YouTube - Women's Self Defense for Rear Assaults : Women's Self Defense Neck Break
(I don't think that this is from the Aikido curriculum - though if Hugo or someone wants to correct me on that... nor can I say that it's definitely anything to do with the teachings of the following guys)
Watching again, I found myself thinking that this is perhaps the second most irresponsible and ill-informed self-defence video I've ever seen (first in line was a guy who was telling kids to stand their ground against adults in an attempted abduction situation and apply wristlocks to subdue until help arrived) and I considered for a while whether it was worth opening up a MABS thread about this lady (Mallory Senne - Shodan in aikido and kyusho, according to the video description). However, I could find no reference online to her actually teaching in the real world, so I cooled on the idea.
However, I did find out the name of her teacher. This is he - Mr. Gary Boaz (Ms. Senne is also a uke in some of his expertvillage Aikido videos, FWIW).
YouTube - Gary Boaz Kyusho knock outs
YouTube - Gary Boaz 2006 IKC France
YouTube - Gary Boaz 2006 IKC France part 2
...and following it upstream, this would appear to be *his* teacher, Mr. Evan Pantazi - http://www.kyusho.com/
YouTube - Evan Pantazi
YouTube - Master Evan Pantazi
YouTube - New Knockouts
(there's loads more stuff on YouTube)
...and then I found myself thinking that this all seemed rather silly and difficult to take seriously at all. Actually, I felt like banging my head on my desk for a moment at the very idea that people *still* believe that this sort of thing will work as seen in the demonstrations against people who aren't prepared to 'go with the flow'.
Anyone know anything about these folks? From what I can gather, Pantazi was one of Dillman's students (colour me surprised!) at some point.
So that's what I've been doing with my afternoon.
You know I still to this day demonstrate the "two way action" whenever I talk about BS in martial arts. She also has a horrible video on how to defend a front choke that will get you killed. Good job finding this stuff, it sure is a long line of craptastic teachers.
I have found that two way action only works in sex.
A wonderful way of turning 'self defense' into 'attempted murder'. That is, if it works in the first place.
Well, if it works then it would be murder, right? It's only attempted murder if it DOESN'T work.
Originally Posted by judoist
I think we have a winner, gentlemen.
Originally Posted by tantivy22
I'm also refusing to get into a "Do pressure points work?" discussion. But an "Aikidon't Sucks" thread sounds good.
I fail to see how tapping with her knuckles is going to break that grip.... or why someone would then hold their hand up just so to get grabbed, heh... What does she think she is doing??
I tried to use a pressure point on my sensei once. He laughed and took me down.
Is this the one
Originally Posted by CoffeeFan
YouTube - Women's Self Defense Against Frontal Attacks : Self Defense Against Two Hand Chokes
Also I find it funny that the comments on those videos are either a) "This sucks/wouldn't work" or b) "omg I would have with her teh secks".
Aren't those the only two valid replies to that video? It's not like there's going to be a lot of testimonials regarding the use of the knee break as a choke defense. Unless it's in third-person or as a post-mortem kinda thing.
I wouldn't do it.
Originally Posted by JudoA