Early forms of the Single Leg takedown

**lklawson** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 8:28am

...sometimes called the "leg dive" and the like.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

**judoist** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 8:45am

Yet another awesome thread on WMA, Kirk. Awesome pics, as usual. I have a question: is this Lancanshire Catch-As-Catch-Can?

**lklawson** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 8:58am

Originally Posted by judoist

is this Lancanshire Catch-As-Catch-Can?

No, not specifically. These were culled from a number of sources. The photos were mostly from generic CaCC/Scientific Wrestling manuals. #1 is from Charles Atlas and #5 is from Farmer Burns, for example.

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

**judoist** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 9:26am

The elbow and leg hold has a smooth transition into fireman's carry (kata guruma in Judo). I'll try it in tonght's class and write about it later.

**Permalost** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 10:32am

I've seen the move in Position 55 end in a shin to the groin:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...subj=775399345

**tim_stl** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 10:34am

fantastic. where's the last one from?

tim

**lklawson** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 11:19am

Originally Posted by tim_stl

fantastic. where's the last one from?

Wrestling - Part Two by Billy Sandow and Ed "Strangler" Lewis

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

**lklawson** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 11:21am

Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra

I've seen the move in Position 55 end in a shin to the groin:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...subj=775399345

Yup. You may note that Farmer Burns (pic #5 in this montage) specifically says not to do it that way. :)

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

**Spungdeeper** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 5:55pm

Fabian von Auerswald has a single leg take-down and a fireman's carry as well. I can't seem to get the image from the pdf to copy though. cuz I tarded.

***jnp*** · Posted On: 10/08/2010 7:01pm

Originally Posted by lklawson

My go to takedown in H.S. wrestling was a cross body arm drag to fireman's carry or kata guruma which is almost exactly what is pictured there. The only difference being that I grab my opponent's tricep with my arm above the plane of my shoulders. In other words, my arm is in the Americana, rather than the Kimura position like in the photograph.

When you pull one of his arms across his body before you enter for the throw your opponent can't pancake you back into the crucifix position. See photo again.

Pictures like these and the "Origins of grappling" thread cause me to wonder how many times people have rediscovered throwing and grappling techniques throughout history.