Thread: Houston CMA tournament
9/24/2010 2:47pm, #1
Houston CMA tournament
People may remember the thread we had about some tournament with good rules in Houston. It ended up not happening, actually, perhaps because it bit off more than it could chew—there were going to be form comps as well, and weapons, and all sorts of stuff. Anyway, the guy behind that tournament, a Chen player named Blue Siytangco, has carved down the idea to the stuff we like and is trying again:
Saturday, November 13 · 9:00am - 9:00pm
LocationMountain River Studio9000 Southwest Freeway, Suite 430
Created ByACMAA - American Chen Style Taijiquan Martial Arts Association
More InfoThis is a combat-only tournament with Lei Tai Sanda style rules that employ all combat elements: striking, kicking, grappling, wrestling, throwing, and qinna. All styles and competitors are welcome to showcase their skills, ages 16 and up.
More detailed info will be posted soon, but here's the story so far:
Full contact to the body, light contact to the head.
Hands and feet to the head and body.
...Kao, elbows, and knees to the body only.
Qinna to the shoulders, elbows, knees, and ankles.
Throws, grappling, and wrestling are allowed, but only 10 seconds are allotted for groundwork.
Immobilizing Qinna is allowed while standing or on the ground to the shoulders, elbows, knees, and ankles.
As this is an amateur event, there will be required protective gear:
Head Gear, face cage or shield is optional.
Chest Guard is optional, but is required for female competitors.
MMA Gloves with 1” padding over the knuckles.
Shin and Instep Guards.
Competitors can be barefoot or wear Fei Yue style martial arts shoes.
1 point for clean strikes.
2 points for clean kicks.
10 points for clean throws and take downs (competitor stays on their feet).
10 points for clean immobilizing qinna.
5 points for dirty throw (you fall on top of your opponent).
2 (3 minute) rounds and 1 (2 minute) round for tie breaker.
$50 before October 30, 2010.
$100 at the door.
9/24/2010 4:02pm, #2
9/24/2010 4:11pm, #3
Surprisingly good ruleset. I hope they get a good turnout.“Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
9/25/2010 3:34am, #4
- Join Date
- Jun 2010
The mention of Kao in the rules seems like an afterthought.
Is there actually any way to use the Kao other than to the body? Can you score any points using Kao? Would Asia’s/Gezere’s famous Kao knockdown score him any points? Do knockdowns score as throws in this rule set?
9/25/2010 9:38am, #5
this sounds like exactly what's needed. let's hope that it does well."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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9/25/2010 9:42am, #6
Never been kao'ed in the head? Cai to get you bent over, then *konk*?
Can you score any points using Kao? Would Asia’s/Gezere’s famous Kao knockdown score him any points? Do knockdowns score as throws in this rule set?
Good question! Write him at email@example.com and let us know what he says.
9/25/2010 2:03pm, #7
- Join Date
- Jun 2010
Actually no- we rarely pushed, no one besides me really wanted to play hard and I was the strongest/heaviest guy in my group (not a great feat taking into account that half of it were females) so few people could successfully Cai me. I now loathe pushing hands with females because most of their Lu and Cai attempts ended with my arms being clawed.Originally Posted by My mail to Blue Siytangco
9/25/2010 2:29pm, #8