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  1. DarkPhoenix is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post
    Are you sure he didn't mean some kind of "Empire State" judo tournament that might have later been incorporated into the Games? I ask because according to this link from the info you posted on the Empire State Games, the Games began in 1978:

    http://www.empirestategames.org/summer/about.asp
    It is a very good possibility he was referring to any tourney in NY.

    I asked him about the ESGs, but he was confused as he hadn't heard any getting Batsugan in NY since around 1969.
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    ... Ohhhhhhhh, I'm going to make hate to you so hard that your kinfolk back in Africa will feel it.l
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    Small question:
    Don't you already have to be minimum a Shodan to participate in the ESG's?
    If so, how could he be awarded his BB (meaning Shodan) by batsugan in the ESG's?
    Or am I missing something?
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    ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
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    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendokan View Post
    Small question:
    Don't you already have to be minimum a Shodan to participate in the ESG's?
    If so, how could he be awarded his BB (meaning Shodan) by batsugan in the ESG's?
    Or am I missing something?
    There is no minimum rank for the ESGs, as the minimum age is 13 years old. That is a junior rank in the US which would mean he could be at most a brown belt. Most of the kids I played with back in the day competed at green belt (junior green belt is equivalent to a senior yonkyu). As for senior members (17 and older) there is no minimum that I am aware of, but you have to play in the trials first. I was invited to the trials last year as a nikyu.
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    BJJ JOE: I'm going to make hate to you. Right here, right now.
    ... Ohhhhhhhh, I'm going to make hate to you so hard that your kinfolk back in Africa will feel it.l
    Quote Originally Posted by Archer
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    Posted On:
    9/29/2010 9:18pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakronen View Post

    my BJJ black belt which almost 99.99 people have when they get black belts.

    KEN
    Everyone knows that Kenny is legit, but I think these percentages are a little high. I can name several black belts, that I know and have seen promoted personally by legit instructors, that don't have certs. If I have seen this, surely it is more widespread.
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    I told you all that I would post again once our investigation was over. Unfortunately we were unable to find clarity on the lineage of Jay Russell’s Black Belt. Without clarity on this issue we were left with no choice but to remove Jay as our BJJ instructor and have replaced him with Ryan Clark. As this forum has stated many times Jay is very talented and we do not want to take this talent away from our students. We continue to believe in Jay Russell and have made him the head of our MMA program. I would like to thank this forum for bringing this to our attention and for helping maintain the integrity of the sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewYorkJiuJitsu View Post
    I told you all that I would post again once our investigation was over. Unfortunately we were unable to find clarity on the lineage of Jay Russellís Black Belt. Without clarity on this issue we were left with no choice but to remove Jay as our BJJ instructor and have replaced him with Ryan Clark. As this forum has stated many times Jay is very talented and we do not want to take this talent away from our students. We continue to believe in Jay Russell and have made him the head of our MMA program. I would like to thank this forum for bringing this to our attention and for helping maintain the integrity of the sport.
    Interesting. Anyway, we will be banning all of the accounts except yours. There are 6 accounts, including yours, all posting from the same IP.

    Since you have drawn your conclusion and made changes there is no reason to keep all of the "other" accounts active.
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    Thank you however, I'm not entirely done with this.

    I'd like to know if Mr. Russell is a liar ?

    He may well be talented but the credibility of a liar, isn't a particularly good example for anyone.

    I'd like to know more about Mr. Russell's additional claims of lineage other than via Mr. Damon.
    "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".

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    NYJJ's new MMA bio for Jay Russell.

    http://nyjiujitsualbany.com/node/26

    No mention of BBs in either BJJ or Judo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post
    NYJJ's new MMA bio for Jay Russell.

    http://nyjiujitsualbany.com/node/26

    No mention of BBs in either BJJ or Judo.
    I will give them props for checking into and making the correct adjustments. I do agree with Simo as, he was caught in possible lies and those should be checked out as deeply as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post
    NYJJ's new MMA bio for Jay Russell.

    http://nyjiujitsualbany.com/node/26

    No mention of BBs in either BJJ or Judo.
    There's no mentioning of anything. No ranks, no prior training, absolute nothing that would/could validate Jay Russell as a suitable teacher for MMA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jiujitsu77
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    ...your books on Kama Sutra and BJJ are interchangeable.
    Quote Originally Posted by jk55299 on Keysi Fighting Method
    It looks like this is a great fighting method if someone replaces your shampoo with superglue.
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