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    Hey guys.

    I got a reply from USJF.

    Quote Originally Posted by USJF
    Dear Mr. Wildeuer,

    I cannot find any record for Jay Russell or Jay Shannon Russell in our membership records.

    Renee
    On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:48 PM, WordPress wrote:


    You had an inquiry from the USJF Website:
    Regarding: Other
    Name: Craig Wildfeuer Jr
    Email: zsnyper@gmail.com
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    Good afternoon,

    I am writing looking to see if you have a Jay Russell or a Jay Shannon Russell in your memberships rolls. There have been some inquiries as to the validity of his black belt judo ranking, and I would just like to clear it up.

    Thanks

    Craig Wildfeuer
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    One more to go :)

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    I did a Google search on "'Jay Russel' judo" and came up with a hit on his cached myspace page from which I copied and pasted the excerpt below:

    "Jay Russell is a Black Belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu under Jordan Damon (a Carlson Gracie Jr. Black Belt). He has dedicated his life to teaching martial arts and has led many of his students to world class level competition. He has competed in King of the Cage, Mass Destruction, and various other MMA organizations. He has also competed in many Judo and Wrestling tournaments."

    Now if he had competed in "many" Judo tournaments, wouldn't he have been required to have a membership card for the particular judo body sponsoring the tournament or be asked to sign up for membership before he would be allowed to compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post
    "'Jay Russel' judo"
    Make that "'Jay Russell' judo".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post

    Now if he had competed in "many" Judo tournaments, wouldn't he have been required to have a membership card for the particular judo body sponsoring the tournament or be asked to sign up for membership before he would be allowed to compete?
    We had this discussion concerning someone else. It would be very rare if not highly improbable to have this occur. The only way would be to compete in an unsanctioned event. After much research that would be very rare as well.

    The comment of "many" just makes me think it is an exaggeration.

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    Here's a mention of a Jay Russell in the 1998 AAU National Grappling Championships hosted by Judo America:

    http://www.judoamerica.com/results/grapple98.shtml

    Don't know if it's our man or not.

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    That's one of the two orgs that are considered independent. So, he could very well be a Judo BB under the AAU.

    So, now we have to research Elite Jujitsu (no the BJJ team that pope up) an see if they still exist and what his rank was and if they cross ranked in AAU Judo as Judo Black belts.

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    I also noticed that the facebook page for New York Jiu Jitsu still has him listed as a "BJJ Black Belt":

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=85210226231

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    That's one of the two orgs that are considered independent. So, he could very well be a Judo BB under the AAU.

    AAU hasn't issued any rank in Judo for quite some time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuckofDeath View Post
    I also noticed that the facebook page for New York Jiu Jitsu still has him listed as a "BJJ Black Belt":

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=85210226231
    Well that was fast; the "BJJ Black Belt" reference is gone now.

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