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  1. Toby Christensen is offline

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    11/15/2005 9:22am

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    Billy Wicks and Johnny Huskey vs the Gracies

    I had the privilege of having a good old whinge via the phone to Billy Wicks, one of the last surviving Catch wrestling purists.

    Billy Wicks made it clear that he didn't like the Gracies, nor their method of fighting from their backs.

    He also mentioned he was trained primarily be Ed Strangler Lewis, as was Gene Lebell, but doesn't know who Gene Lebell is.

    I also say that Billy Wicks is cooler than Gene Lebell because he drinks beer and rumour has it he carries a knife :icon_twis

    Anyhoo, I propose that Billy Wicks and Johnny Huskey (Billy Wicks' understudy) fight the Gracies.

    :wrestlerb
    What am I?:

    I am ignorant, thieving, lying, hypocrital, violent and thoroughly self obssessed. I steal from others to make myself look better, only to make the item or information worse.

    I go on and on and ON about how brave and strong and brilliant and wealthy I am, but in the end I'm all mouth and no trousers.

    That's right children, I'm your average AMERICUNT! and I exemplify AMERICA!:911flag:

    :occasion1

    JohnnyCache's "retort" proving how much he knows about medicine and geography and First World countries:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=78188&page=22

    Yes, through persistent lack of work and the cultivation of ignorance, he is a true American.
  2. JohnnyFive is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 9:37am


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    NOBODY IS COOLER THAN GENE LEBELL. NOBODY.
  3. JohnnyCache is offline
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    Posted On:
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    man it's good of you to volunteer a fight on the behalf of someone else.

    But seriously, I'd pay like 2.87 euros or so to see that.

    Disclaimer: I have no euros
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
  4. Pandinha is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 9:40am

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    Doesn't know who Gene is?

    Creditablity out the window.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  5. PirateJon is offline
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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 10:03am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    Doesn't know who Gene is?

    Creditablity out the window.
    Correct. The only way I could accept this is Gene saying "that dude? I stayed the **** outta his way. He's a monster!"

    Somehow I do not see this happening.
  6. Toby Christensen is offline

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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 10:12am

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    Asia can fill us in on Billy Wicks

    Ahem

    M'LORD ASIA?

    YOUR SERVICES ARE REQUIRED!


    What am I?:

    I am ignorant, thieving, lying, hypocrital, violent and thoroughly self obssessed. I steal from others to make myself look better, only to make the item or information worse.

    I go on and on and ON about how brave and strong and brilliant and wealthy I am, but in the end I'm all mouth and no trousers.

    That's right children, I'm your average AMERICUNT! and I exemplify AMERICA!:911flag:

    :occasion1

    JohnnyCache's "retort" proving how much he knows about medicine and geography and First World countries:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...=78188&page=22

    Yes, through persistent lack of work and the cultivation of ignorance, he is a true American.
  7. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 10:50am

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    I think you are mixing crediblity with fighting ability. No one said Billy Wicks can't fight.


    Gene Lebell is famous outside of MA circles. He is one of those people you recognize similar to Bruce Lee. For someone to say he is trained by the same teacher as Gene andnever hear of the guy is silly.

    That is akin to an English Lit student saying Shakespeare who?


    See, credibility out of the window.

    Are you sure you didn't ask him about Gene and he answered "no" sarcastically?
    Last edited by It is Fake; 11/15/2005 10:53am at .
  8. DSDbronson is offline

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    11/15/2005 10:53am


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    nobody "knows" Gene on here(personally) even though everybody knows of him, not surprising he wouldn't either
  9. Cullion is offline
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    Posted On:
    11/15/2005 11:02am

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Gene Lebell is famous outside of MA circles. He is one of those people you recognize similar to Bruce Lee.
    Not even vaguely. Lots of martial artists I know haven't heard of him when I first mention him.

    Gene Lebell is cool because he was a master of grappling when all us martial arts nerds were still trying to perfect their reverse spinning hook kick on the tyre swing back in 1986, but I can't think of a single reason why I would expect the average person who doesn't regularly read MA websites or magazines to have heard of him.

    For someone to say he is trained by the same teacher as Gene andnever hear of the guy is silly.
    This part I can agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    Not even vaguely. Lots of martial artists I know haven't heard of him when I first mention him.


    This part I can agree with.
    Umm, that is why I said outside of MA circles. My dad knew who Gene Lebell was, and I've bumped into quite a few non-MA who know Gene Lebell. Maybe because he was on Reno 911.

    Bruce Lee was a bad example he crossed both extremes MA and Movie Stardom

    I meant everyone knows who Bruce is outside of MA.

    You know the average Mom or dad may not know a thing about MA but, they know/knew who BL was.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 11/15/2005 11:19am at .
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