[5FingazofDeath]

Unfortunetly the "self-defense programs taught by out of shape teachers placing too much emphasis on mindset and not enough on learning how to fight. " happens all to often. And that is the very reason this site exists. If Im EVER in a situation where that shit will arise, I would tell the person that they are full of bullshit. I train too hard for someone else to claim that they are a fighter/martial artist and they dont spar, condition, or actually train realisticaly at all. Screw that shit.

[slamdunc]

I think there's a big difference between having the miindset to win a fight through any means necessary and having the applicable tools honed through hard practice to make it a reality. In fact I would argue that having the well practiced tools makes the proper mindset easier to achieve.

Your point is exceptional; the well practiced tools do help with the mindset. They give the fighter greater confidence and make everything more reflexive. After having my wake up call, I know that I am better prepared to roll now, should the need arise.

The Average Joe, with the 'that could never happen to me' way of thinking is fooling himself. There are many martial artists out there who have the skills, and have practiced them over and over, yet they could not win.

[lm2]

Originally Posted by 5FingazofDeath

No. The idea of a self defense mindset is super fucking important. It is this that will hopefully avoid situations, and to actually be able to APPLY your techniques in real life. So many people in our classes get tought solid techniques, but if shit really came down to it - Im sure they would lose streetfights. We call it - no killer instinct. You could know how to fight and all that shit, but what if you get jumped or something? Are you willing to cut someone or hit them in the head with a makeshift weapon? Real fights could end up being gory very quickly. You got to be the one to walk away, while they have to get CARRIED away.Your typical martial artist does not think of these things.
However in order to get to this level and actually be able to pull of your shit in stressfull situations, you are going to need hours upon hours of learning the muscle memory. So yes, you will also have very good technical skills as well.

when the dice hit the floor you got to do anything to protect the loved one. no matter what it takes. i can post why I say this ,but those stuppid scenarios that only happen elsewhere just hit our door... latter when the press print come out ill post it.

[Feryk]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Point of fact, by the way, the standards for being accepted into most Canadian police agencies are far higher than most municipal and state police agencies in the United States.

Edmonton alone is the most difficult police agency in NORTH AMERICA to be accepted into. Don't believe me? Check out www.joineps.ca and compare those standards to those of any US state or municipal law enforcement agency.

The only US municipal police department whose hiring standards even come close to comparing is Seattle, WA.

Perhaps now is not the best time to be touting the EPS as the standard in Law Enforcement.

[lm2]

Originally Posted by Feryk

Perhaps now is not the best time to be touting the EPS as the standard in Law Enforcement.

I wasted a few second in ther application and qualification form.

• Good writing skills. Communication skills testing will be included in the selection protocol and may include an essay and/or other testing methods. Writing skills must be at least high school graduatelevel before applying.
Prior to being offered employment with the Edmonton Police Service, an applicant will have to possess the following valid Certifications:

• Certificate in Standard First Aid (minimum 16 hour course), approved through Provincial Occupational
Health and Safety. Certificate must be issued within one year prior to the date of application. Re-qualification may be necessary for some components after one year;

• Current Certificate in Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation BLSC with standards equivalent to those of the Canadian/American Heart and Stroke Foundation. Verify with your training agency that your CPR Certification is included in your First Aid Certification. Certificate must be issued within one year prior to the date of application.
Application Processing Fee

The $107.00 (GST included) Application Processing Fee must be provided in the

form of a certified cheque or money order only, payable to the City of Edmonton. No personal cheques or cash will be accepted.
RECRUITMENT INFORMATION


And thats what makes it the Best. Giving them money surely filters out the crowd.

[Multitask]

Originally Posted by Yrkoon9

Vunak: There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Me: What?
Vunak: Don't cross the chain punches.
Me: Why?
Vunak: It would be bad.
Me: I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad?"
Vunak: Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Me: Total protonic reversal? Right. That's bad. Okay. All right. Important safety tip. Thanks, Mr Vunak.

That is some funny stuff! I'm no expert, but some of what Vunak said makes sense. That said, can you really learn anything useful in a streetfight from a book?

[lm2]

Originally Posted by Multitask

That is some funny stuff! I'm no expert, but some of what Vunak said makes sense. That said, can you really learn anything useful in a streetfight from a book?

Books, DVD,CDS, Seminars are allways good source of info,but the truth is in the hand to hand instruction with a realistic aproach.The value of the critical eye of an instructor is verry important. Example consider a boxing match ,how you always see one corner screaming "uper cut" "Jab" and so forth. It not that the boxers sucks its that the team sees what going good and bad in the fight. That always needed Dont go paranoid with self defence stuff anyways.

The more pain in the dojo the blood on the battle field. (or something like that)

[lm2]

Originally Posted by Matt W.

Quite the contrary, my logically challenged friend. You'll see (or you would have seen had you actually bothered to read much of this forum) that I rarely make anything out of my c/o status, and never claim uber-deadliness. Yet, here's a guy who in one of his early posts makes much of his experience at "teh deadly r3al combat" based on his being employed as nothing more than an 8$/hr Security Guard. Which is, of course, absurd.

So you can bite me... wanker. *grin*

wrong this guy got paid 20$ an hour. I never claimed to be uber deadly.Unless you consider dying from a stab wound deadly.

You ca try this shit your self. Do a knife attack sparring session NHB way and see.

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102605 I thing that Paul writing in this book (if is as it says here) is on the right track for most of it(street different from sport),but it would seam that he wrote this book prematurely.If he wrote this book know in 05 it would be a lot different, or perhaps he didnt have a good editor or one at all. Most victims I have seen from street fight the only dirty tactics used was a sucker punch and for most of them that was the end of it. His book was printed 01 and even one of hid instructors now say that he mixes up the sparing with a "suddently a weapon is thrown into the game" I thing that good stuff.

[VikingPower]

Gracie Challenge info: http://www.sportbikes.com/wwwthreads...0639/type/post

Paul Vunak's Street fighting series (great series despite this) shows him repeatedly knocking down a wrestler trying to shoot in on him. He clearly states "no one can shoot in past a well developed straight blast". Well after reading what he felt were "boastful, ridiculous" comments by Rorion Gracie, he went to the Gracie Academy and took the "Gracie Challenge". Rorion Mounted and submitted Paul in less than 5 minutes. It should be noted that Rorion was giving up roughly 25 lbs. and about 10 years. to Vunak!! Anyone who knows Paul Vunak (Empty hand and Knife instructor for Navy Seals) will tell you what a blindingly fast and effecient fighter he is. Well, after being beaten, Paul magnanimously wrote an article for BB telling of his experience and new found respect for BJJ.

Not the most reliable source but gives us an idea of what happened.

[Matt W.]

Unless you consider dying from a stab wound deadly.

You actually died from a stab wound? That explains a lot.