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    Curiosity about Pekiti Tirsia

    Okay, as someone who has been doing Judo and TKD for a long time, I wanted to start doing some sorta knife training for fun. I did an intro to Pekiti Tirsia a few weeks back and found a local instructor who studied under Bill McGrath so I wanted to see what it was like. It seemed interesting and considering there isn't much in the way of FMA or other knife fighting in my area, it may be my only choice.

    Doing a search pulled up a few things, but they were kind of old. Anyone have an recent experience with this style?
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    If it's under McGrath, you could learn some good stuff.

    If it's under Gaje's PTK Global Org...I'd avoid it. I find the environment to be unhealthy psychologically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander View Post
    If it's under McGrath, you could learn some good stuff.

    If it's under Gaje's PTK Global Org...I'd avoid it. I find the environment to be unhealthy psychologically.

    Thanks Der. The thing that caught my eye about this place was the sparring/drills. They drill to learn the technique and then they spar with it.
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    PTK should be fun, and what you are looking for. I've trained with people who came from PTK backgrounds, and all had really good skills.
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    It's the real deal. PTK is what the Filipino counter terror forces train in, which makes it one of the only styles in the world that can boast genuine "life or death combat" pressure testing.

    If you've got access to a good instructor I'd say "GO FOR EET"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Machette View Post
    It's the real deal. PTK is what the Filipino counter terror forces train in, which makes it one of the only styles in the world that can boast genuine "life or death combat" pressure testing.

    If you've got access to a good instructor I'd say "GO FOR EET"!
    According to what I've heard, they've passed on Gaje as of late.

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    PTK seems to get good representation at the Dog Bros gatherings, if shirts, gearbags etc are any indication. Like other martial endeavors, pressure testing is important. I remember watching one fight with a PTK guy (a new guy I think) who lost his stick 3 times, just from having hard stick clashes. It doesn't really say anything about PTK as a style but it does illustrate the importance of hard training.

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    There are lots of good things in Pekiti Tirsia. I've been training it for 9 or so years. It all depends on the instructor. Unfortunately, it's starting to fracture around personalities and egos, much like JKD did in the 1980s.

    Tuhon Rommel Tortal is really down to earth and a good instructor. Unlike his uncle, he doesn't tend to get mad when people ask "what about this?" We're fortunate enough that Tuhon Mel comes to stay with my instructor and hangs around the school for a couple weeks each year.

    If you want to meet Tuhon Mel, there's a combined camp coming up the weekend of the 19th of July that's cohosted by Tuhon and my instructor. It' s $375 for the weekend, but that's Friday night, all day Saturday and all day Sunday, with some food and drink provided. It's in the events section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander View Post
    If it's under Gaje's PTK Global Org...I'd avoid it. I find the environment to be unhealthy psychologically.
    I watched one of Tim Waid's DVDs. At first, I was going to make a drinking game out of every time he used the word "execute", but realized I'd get obliterated pretty damn quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Machette View Post
    It's the real deal. PTK is what the Filipino counter terror forces train in, which makes it one of the only styles in the world that can boast genuine "life or death combat" pressure testing.

    If you've got access to a good instructor I'd say "GO FOR EET"!
    I've seen a lot that I like from PTK. I'd just add a note to what Mr. Machette said. There are quite a few FMA styles that have been combat tested that have had GMs used their art in battle. There are even more FMA styles where founders and masters of the system have used their art effectively in numerous duels. That's one of the better facets of FMA is it's relative recent use on the battle field and in duels.

    Of course, you run into styles and groups where the founders may have used the art in battle or duels but the group practitioners rarely spar.

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