Posted On:4/27/2013 2:58pm
Style: being a fatty
I have 2 friends who do Kendo and Kumdo. They claim that because they're used to going against a sword, they can beat barehanded fighters even without weapons. Is that true? Is barehanded fighting taught there?
Posted On:4/27/2013 3:17pm
And no, they are not used to go against swords. They're used to go against bamboo replicas... there is a big difference between some brusing and mutilation/death.
Posted On:4/27/2013 3:28pm
Style: FMA/MMA/HEMA noob
Ok I've only ever sparred Kendo guys in weapons matches, however, I'm going to go ahead and say they're probably delusional.
Kendoka vs untrained noob - Kendoka will probably have an advantage in fitness and conditioning, and some damn good footwork.
Kendoka vs high-school wrestler? Game over man.
Posted On:4/27/2013 4:23pm
Okay, thanks for your input guys. I was trying to argue with them that it doesn't work like that, but when I sparred them, they just said that I only won (by submission) cause I wasn't an "average fighter".
How would a Kendoka fare against a someone with a basketball/volleyball build? Tall, slim, with sport-oriented footwork. (untrained)
Against a football player? (A linebacker to a quarterbacker build. Half/full backers would be more akin to bball/vball build.)
Are barehanded techniques actually taught there? One claimed aikido, which I took with a grain of salt, but the other said that Kumdo is a mix of barehanded and sword fighting.
Watch and Shoot !
Posted On:4/27/2013 4:26pm
Kenshi with a fucking sharp sword equals bad-fucking-ass against anyone, short of holding a firearm.
Not many people carry Japanese swords anymore since the Meiji Restoration (shame)
Shinai-Kendo - not so much.
"To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".
Posted On:4/27/2013 4:37pm
Style: Thai Boxing
Originally Posted by Rock Ape
Kenshi with a fucking sharp sword equals bad-fucking-ass against anyone, short holding a firearm.
In an effort to understand the difference between the two, this is the best I could do. I'm more confused than when I started.
Posted On:4/27/2013 4:41pm
To be fair I'd be pretty wary of a Kendo guy who manages to pick up a broom or whatever.
As far as I'm aware there's no empty hand taught in Kendo, at least according to everything I've seen/read and the Kendoka I've trained with.
I have less knowledge of Kumdo, I've only ever met one guy who'd done it and he got it as part of his Hapkido training. I do know that some of the Kumdo forms have kicks in them, maybe they think that counts?
Posted On:4/27/2013 7:14pm
Kendo and kumdo are the same. Some things that transfer to a bare hands fight are fitness, mobility, the experience of being in a fight,aggressiveness and the ability to process at a higher speed than the average schmo. Those would add up to not mattering a bit against anyone trained in unarmed combat, and a bit of an edge against an untrained dude that would be erased by athleticism and/or aggression on his part.
In short, not entirely worthless but enough so that you can tell your friends a kendo sensei said they were full of ****.
Posted On:4/27/2013 7:21pm
I'd hedge a healthy wager that I could crack the skull of most grapplers with a bokuto much before they get the upper hand on me but, this would depend entirely on circumstance.
Posted On:4/27/2013 7:50pm
I thought we were talking empty hands here. Yeah, bokuto in my hand, other guys in trouble.
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