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  1. Omega Supreme is offline

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    Tomoe Nage: Judo experts in here.

    To all my fellow Judoka;

    My daughter is obsessed with the Tomei Nage. The story behind that is she pulled off a Yoko Tomei Nage during a match and I told her that the Tomei Nage is even easier. So every match she's going for it but I'm failing to get her to understand the concept she's missing.

    I thought you guys could give me some fun drills to help her out.
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    Do you mean Tomoe Nage? Or is Tomei Nage a different technique I've not heard of?
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    How old's your kid? I ask because a lot of the younger ones become enamoured of that waza because of the cool factor, but it is a risky competition move. If you miss, the other person often gets credit for a throw, or alternately falls on top and the osaekomi is on. Once a kid is in a groundhold it's usually game over.

    I don't have any tech advice for you, I suck at tomoe nage. Not near flexible enough.
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    Not my throw at all, but I think a lot of beginners develop it as a panic throw. There's someone in front of them that is trying to fight them, and there's all this free space behind them, so they try and drop back into the free space and do a throw.

    Problem is that in order to do a successful throw they need to be dropping right *in* and under their opponent, not back away from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post

    Problem is that in order to do a successful throw they need to be dropping right *in* and under their opponent, not back away from them.
    Exactly.

    Niel, she's 11 but she's as big as a young teenager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    To all my fellow Judoka;

    My daughter is obsessed with the Tomei Nage. The story behind that is she pulled off a Yoko Tomei Nage during a match and I told her that the Tomei Nage is even easier. So every match she's going for it but I'm failing to get her to understand the concept she's missing.

    I thought you guys could give me some fun drills to help her out.
    How old is she ?

    Fun drills for Tomoe Nage. Honestly, it's not a throw I teach to kids, so the fun factor isn't too high. In some places kids are not allowed to do sutemi waza (sacrifice techniques (especially Canada) below a certain age. Not a problem for you, I know.

    If her form is good already, the best thing to do is just throw someone (Dad?) a lot, and correct her as needed.

    To pull it off in randori or shiai, it is best to combine it with some sort of ashi waza (foot sweeps an work well) or at least some sort of action - reaction to get uke to push or move forward.

    I like what I call the "bob" as in bob up and down. Basically, put downward pressure on uke then release, then enter the throw.

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    I dunno about doing it with Dad. Tomoenage is one of those throws the kids always whip out to do against adults at things like belt award ceremonies, and the adults always obligingly take a spectactular dive. Even if you tell them the adults are helping, the takeaway for the kid is that they threw a big guy spectactularly with the throw and therefore it's a good throw for them.

    As far as fun drills, sorry fresh out. If she insists on doing it make sure as CF said that she is swinging way in and basically planting her butt between uke's feet. One advantage of being 11 is not being afraid of that commitment - adults learning the throw are always hesitant to swing on in there.
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    There is a variation where you throw off to the side instead of directly over. It's better if you are throwing someone bigger.


    not a judo expert, just throwing that out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorpal View Post
    There is a variation where you throw off to the side instead of directly over.
    Yes, that would be yoko tomo nage, which is the version she's already pulled off in competition.
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