3/13/2013 9:01pm, #1
Dealing with heavy top guard pressure in no gi?
On the weekend i did a bluebelt tournament and ran into a style of competitor I hadn't experience before. The pressure fighter who gives up no points and goes for very little offensively except positional improvements.
This guy wins whole tournaments without a single submission and while i beat him in Gi with 1 advantage no points scored, in the No Gi he kicked my arse.
This showed a pretty big weakness in my game, i rely on submitting people from the guard or sweeping and working from side control. How do i deal with someone who sits tight in my closed guard with hands on my biceps and no intention to go for any passes or give up space?
Are there some techniques i can work on to counter this? In the Gi i go for collar chokes when they do this but there is not enough room for guillotines.
Any advice you can offer would be appreciated, maybe Battlefields can put up the video of it too."Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
3/14/2013 1:17am, #2
If you pulled guard anyways because you hate yourself and like to suffer then dig deep on one of his arms and constantly work arm drag attempts. If you can't get the armdrag he will be defending by pulling his arm on that side in tighter towards his body at which point you can fake an arm drag and then push his hand down for the triangle choke.
Alternately you can start off my constantly trying to push his hand down for the triangle setup, and then as he pushes back you can yank that arm out and extend it and go for an omoplatta on that side.
Mostly you need to setup at least a 2 technique combo and force it on him so that his preoccupation with maintaining his 'safe' position leads him into the second move of the combo.
3/14/2013 3:49pm, #3
Missing posts moved here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120145
Guys that are strong and favor heavy top pressure while in someone's guard are hard to beat using closed guard. Personally, I tend to open my guard in those situations in order to better destroy their posture.
If you want to remain in closed guard, take Kint's advice about swimming under his arms to get an under hook or to arm drag them. If they're good, you will probably need to chain opposing arm drags together to actually get the drag.
Once his arm is dragged, immediately pin his upper arm to his body with your torso. Allow no space between you and his arm. You can then start to work off to the side the arm is pinned on to set up a sweep.
Heavy top pressure calls for a dynamic bottom game made possible by an open guard, or heavy pressure from the bottom as soon as you gain any advantage.
3/14/2013 4:11pm, #4
Thank you, I appreciate both your tips. If you had asked me a week ago if I had a dynamic guard i would have said yes.
The only chain i was really trying to get was the armdrag to hip bump by hitting the bump when he pulled his arm back. When he didn't fall for this i was dead it the water. Single attacks got me nowhere.
For the next 5 weeks before the state competition i am going to focus on not pulling guard, armdrag to triangle, fake triangle to omoplata and armdrag to opposite armdrag combination.
Can anyone recommend a good video tutorial on armdrags from guard? I can't remember the last time i successfully did this technique and it seems an integral part of no gi chaining."Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
3/14/2013 7:21pm, #5
- Join Date
- Dec 2007
- Richmond, VA
Remember that his forward pressure can also be used to butterfly sweep him. Another very simple option to to stand in base to come up over him.
3/16/2013 3:46pm, #6
can't touch with anything else. They really don't expect it. I've been chaining it off a failed hip bump.
Drilled the other moves with Miyagi as well, it all feels pretty natural except the push triangle to omoplata which I stuff up for some reason.
I've also started using a 2 on one grip to create space for my foot on ther hip to transition to butterfly.
Thanks for all the help!"Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
3/16/2013 5:28pm, #7
- Join Date
- Dec 2007
- Richmond, VA
3/16/2013 5:37pm, #8
Or just more armdrags. You can never have too many armdrags.
3/16/2013 6:57pm, #9
Definitely going armdrag crazy over the next month, I'm starting to see how using them and the movement opportunities they create will make my game less one dimensional.
Learning how not to pull guard may be a longer project. We do 1 day a month of takedown training at this school and its always Gi specific moves.
3/16/2013 9:15pm, #10
As far as books go about arm drags its hard to beat
Also any chance you can work on your stand up during open mat times?