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  1. CrackFox is offline
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    11/07/2012 5:36pm

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    Sode tsurikomi goshi as a counter to a high grip

    Often when someone goes for a high grip behind my neck I find that the best ways I have of dislodging it is to push up and turn into a sode tsurikomi goshi. The spin helps pop it off, and at least they don't just grip up again straight away.

    The only problem is that I can't do sode very well at all. Sometimes I can clip their legs out if they over cook their attempt to step around my throw, but most of the time it just ends in a mess, we break away and I've lost any initiative I had.

    Thinking about it, I guess I may be able to step across for a bastardised tai-otoshi if I miss the sode and they don't rear up straight away. I'd need a bit of work before I can work out how feasible that is though.

    Any ideas on what I should be doing? Sode is a bit of a tricky throw, should I keep trying to work it? Should I go with something different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackFox View Post
    Often when someone goes for a high grip behind my neck I find ...
    Stop right there. That grip is bad. That lets your opponent control your head. Priority No. 1 is to get rid of it (and don't let him get it again). If you can push it up into sode, he's not doing it right. Judoka uk has a thread somewhere showing how you clamp down from that grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Res Judicata View Post
    If you can push it up into sode, he's not doing it right.
    I can't push it up once it's locked in, but if I catch it as it's coming in, I can get it often enough. If it's locked in I'll just go for a break that ends in a neutral-ish position and be glad of getting out of the fire. If they start with a cross grip to feed the collar, that also buggers things - but that's another day's work.
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    That's the grip where you want to pin your elbow to their chest, right? In my first tournament I got stuck with a former wrestler who used that grip and a wrestling tie up on my neck to dominate me. It sucked. It confirmed I was very much a white belt.
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    Yes, but I wouldn't attempt the sode once their hand is locked on and their elbow below the level of my shoulder.

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