My experience with Carlson Gracie Team MMA in Chicago

**lionp** · Posted On: 10/23/2012 9:21pm

I recently moved to Chicago and visited a number of schools to pick a new place to train. Carlson Gracie in downtown Chicago is a SCAM. The sales representative Jimmy lied to my roommate and I about the pricing and contract, then fraudulently billed us even though we were not students and never attended a class after our first and only trial class. When we contacted Eric at membership services, he supported Jimmy. Apparently this is standard procedure there.

The facility itself is mediocre. No shower area. Few students in general, and even fewer advanced students.

There are a number of great BJJ gyms in Chicago with more integrity.

***jnp*** · Posted On: 10/23/2012 10:19pm

Originally Posted by lionp

I recently moved to Chicago and visited a number of schools to pick a new place to train. Carlson Gracie in downtown Chicago is a SCAM. The sales representative Jimmy lied to my roommate and I about the pricing and contract, then fraudulently billed us even though we were not students and never attended a class after our first and only trial class. When we contacted Eric at membership services, he supported Jimmy. Apparently this is standard procedure there.

The facility itself is mediocre. No shower area. Few students in general, and even fewer advanced students.

There are a number of great BJJ gyms in Chicago with more integrity.

So they asked for a credit card even though the class was free? That seems very strange. Stranger still that you gave it to them. That would be a red flag for me.

Do you have a CC statement that corroborates your claim? You could post it with all the personal information redacted. If so, then I might be inclined to move this thread to our investigative forum.

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 10/23/2012 10:38pm

Did you sign anything? If not, go to your bank and tell them it was a fraudulent withdrawal.

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 10/24/2012 12:27am

Want to bet that you signed up and you decided that you're too much of a ***** to join so you decided to join this website to bad mouth these guys? Seriously, which is more believable? You gave them your credit card information and deliberately charged you while misleading you or you actually signed up but then you got buyer's remorse?

**Vorpal** · Posted On: 10/24/2012 9:56am

Originally Posted by Omega Supreme

Want to bet that you signed up and you decided that you're too much of a ***** to join so you decided to join this website to bad mouth these guys? Seriously, which is more believable? You gave them your credit card information and deliberately charged you while misleading you or you actually signed up but then you got buyer's remorse?

Everything I was going to say. Get out of my head man!

**lukerawks** · Posted On: 10/24/2012 10:17am

Show me the ~~money~~ evidence!

**smokelaw1** · Posted On: 10/24/2012 10:30am

The same guy showed up at jiujitsuforums with the exact same post. Similar questions ahve been asked. I even played the "I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a troll, douche, liar, pu$$y or a combination of these" guy. No response from him. My guess...he signed up for a trial month, didn't read the paper that said he'll get charged after that month. He went once or twice, got his ass handed to him, didn't want to stick around, so tried to quit, and then was informed of the terms of the contract that he signed (that said, I hate MA contracts, too...but you make the deal, you've got to live with it to some degree.)

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 10/24/2012 11:58am

Originally Posted by smokelaw1

The same guy showed up at jiujitsuforums with the exact same post. Similar questions ahve been asked. I even played the "I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a troll, douche, liar, pu$$y or a combination of these" guy. No response from him. My guess...he signed up for a trial month, didn't read the paper that said he'll get charged after that month. He went once or twice, got his ass handed to him, didn't want to stick around, so tried to quit, and then was informed of the terms of the contract that he signed (that said, I hate MA contracts, too...but you make the deal, you've got to live with it to some degree.)

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