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    Want to know some dead Sikhs?

    Reaction from neo-Nazi Vanguard News, "You don’t belong here in the country my ancestors fought to found, and deeded to me and mine, their posterity. Even if you came here legally, and even if you haven’t done anything wrong personally. Go home, Sikhs. Go home to India where you belong. This is not your country, it belongs to white men.”

    Nazi asshole shoots Sikhs in their church in Wisconsin; he was probably too dense to even know that they aren't Muslims... last year in Sacramento, two Sikh men were shot and one died because they believed that they were mistaken for Muslims. So weird, fundamentalists (MY BOOK SEZ YOU ARE FUCKED) suck, but these morons kill thinking in their deranged minds they are avenging 9/11 somehow, and they kill the wrong people.

    Low life scum burn a mosque in Joplin. The only good news is that the local churches (and I'm afraid that the Baptists aren't part of this effort, tho hopefully I'm wrong) are putting on a dinner, an "iftar," a meal to break a fast during Ramadan. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1757933.html

    Here's a little bit of the dead. They were members of families, had lovers and children and grandchildren, they were decent humans slaughtered by hatred:
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    Paramjit Kaur, 41
    The only woman killed in the attack on the temple, Kaur was the mother of two sons, ages 18 and 20. Kaur and her husband immigrated from India’s Punjab region about five years ago. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported that she lived in Oak Creek and worked at BD Medical Systems, a factory that makes medical instruments and reagents.
    The Associated Press reported that friends described her as outspoken and sweet and devoted to her faith and family. She worked long hours at the factory — often 11 hours a day, 6 days a week — to provide for her family.
    Manpreet Kaur, no relation, said that when she gave birth to her son this year, Kaur would visit her in the hospital after she got off work. Kaur would bring food for the new mother.
    “She always knew what I needed and would bring it for me,” Manpreet Kaur told the AP.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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    When he heard gunshots, his son said, he "grabbed the nearest knife" – reportedly a butter knife -- and ran toward the sound.
    "He tried to tackle the gunman,"


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Size:  37.4 KBKaleka immigrated to the U.S. in the early 1980s with $35 and worked his way up to owning several gas stations, according to his son, Amardeep S. Kaleka, 42, of Los Angeles.
    The elder Kaleka, the temple president, had come for Sunday morning prayers. When he heard gunshots, his son said, he "grabbed the nearest knife" – reportedly a butter knife -- and ran toward the sound.
    "He tried to tackle the gunman," the son said. It was not clear whether Kaleka wounded the attacker, but investigators told the son "he slowed him down." That may have allowed other congregants to escape.
    Kaleka was shot at least twice in the hip, his son said. He dragged himself away as the gunman left to continue his attack.
    The son said a priest comforted his father, who murmured prayers as he bled. The priest called the son, but ambulances could not reach them in time. "He bled out," the son said.
    "He did his best to protect this temple," the younger Kaleka said. "This was like his child."
    The victim’s brother, Jagit Singh Kaleka, 67, said he sponsored him in 1982 when he immigrated to the U.S. Although they faced discrimination "on a daily basis," Jagit Singh Kaleka said, his brother never lost sight of his "American freedom dream."
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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Size:  43.6 KBSingh moved to Wisconsin from New York City about six months ago to serve as a priest at the temple. His older brother, Ranjit Singh, also served as a priest and also died in the attack. Both men had lived at the temple.
    According to the Associated Press, the temple's secretary, Inderjeet Singh Dhillon, said that the younger Singh made sure guests were well fed, even if he couldn't always express it in English. Dhillon said that when five English-speaking visitors stopped by, Singh insisted — using only gestures that made fellow temple members laugh — on “food for everybody.”
    Dhillon told the AP that the younger Singh would wake up every morning between 4:30 and 5 to read the Sikh holy book. Afterward, he would see which visitors had come in and ensure all had prasad, the food offering given at the end of every prayer session.
    “It was very important to him that whoever came always left with prasad,” Dhillon told the AP.
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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    It would have been an honor to know them. In the case of the man who charged with a butter knife an honor I doubt I would be worthy of.
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    My heart goes out to these Khalsa and their familes. May God watch over them.
    re: The butterknife - I wonder why he didn't use his Kirpan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    My heart goes out to these Khalsa and their familes. May God watch over them.
    re: The butterknife - I wonder why he didn't use his Kirpan?
    If were going to take controversy as an example as to why not the kirpan then in my general experience sikhs now have kirpans that are dulled to butter knife levels and often in the case of teenagers in school, sewn into the sheath because they're of put by a mass of people religiously encouraged to have knives on them at all times to protect the innocent and oppressed. So the butter knife might have actually been a better weapon.

    Although even if any of them had functional kirpans that probably wouldn't have done much to stop a gunman though; slightly better chances but probably not much of a better situation.
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    My first semester of college included a Philosophy class in which I came to know a Sikh. He was a great guy, easily one of the best people I've ever met. I would've taken bullets for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    Paramjit Kaur, 41

    Manpreet Kaur, no relation, said that when she gave birth to her son this year, Kaur would visit her in the hospital after she got off work. Kaur would bring food for the new mother.
    “She always knew what I needed and would bring it for me,” Manpreet Kaur told the AP.
    I know you are quoting a journo but all baptised Sikh women take the name Kaur (it means Princess), just like all baptised Sikh men take the name Singh (lion) somewhere in their name.

    Met a lot of sikhs oveer the years here and generaly they are decent people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    When he heard gunshots, his son said, he "grabbed the nearest knife" – reportedly a butter knife -- and ran toward the sound.
    "He tried to tackle the gunman,"


    Name:  sikh-temple-shooting-victims-20120806-photo-002.jpg
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Size:  37.4 KBKaleka immigrated to the U.S. in the early 1980s with $35 and worked his way up to owning several gas stations, according to his son, Amardeep S. Kaleka, 42, of Los Angeles.
    The elder Kaleka, the temple president, had come for Sunday morning prayers. When he heard gunshots, his son said, he "grabbed the nearest knife" – reportedly a butter knife -- and ran toward the sound.
    "He tried to tackle the gunman," the son said. It was not clear whether Kaleka wounded the attacker, but investigators told the son "he slowed him down." That may have allowed other congregants to escape.
    Kaleka was shot at least twice in the hip, his son said. He dragged himself away as the gunman left to continue his attack.
    The son said a priest comforted his father, who murmured prayers as he bled. The priest called the son, but ambulances could not reach them in time. "He bled out," the son said.
    "He did his best to protect this temple," the younger Kaleka said. "This was like his child."
    The victim’s brother, Jagit Singh Kaleka, 67, said he sponsored him in 1982 when he immigrated to the U.S. Although they faced discrimination "on a daily basis," Jagit Singh Kaleka said, his brother never lost sight of his "American freedom dream."
    He ran at the gunman with a butter knife?? I hereby nominate him for badass of the month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    He ran at the gunman with a butter knife?? I hereby nominate him for badass of the month.
    We haven't done that in a while but I think the rule is that you have to write your own article if you wanted to.

    I hope someone will step up and write it. This guy is a selfless badass.

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