Mayweather vs Cotto

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 5/05/2012 2:33pm

Main card
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Super Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Miguel Cotto (c)
Super Welterweight: Saul Alvarez (c) vs. Shane Mosley
Light Welterweight: Jessie Vargas vs Steve Forbes
Super Welterweight: Deandre Latimore vs Carlos Quintana

Preliminary card
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Welterweight: Keith Thurman vs Brandon Hoskins
Featherweight: Braulio Santos vs Juan Sandoval
Lightweight: Jeffrey Fontanez vs Benna Acaba
Lightweight: Omar Figueroa vs Robbie Cannon
Welterweight: Antonio Orozco vs Dillet Frederick

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 5/05/2012 2:45pm

Lol at 2 champions (same weightclass) on the same card. One is WBA, the other is WBC. Another showing of how worthless belts in boxing are at the moment.

**lordbd** · Posted On: 5/05/2012 3:01pm

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

Lol at 2 champions (same weightclass) on the same card. One is WBA, the other is WBC. Another showing of how worthless belts in boxing are at the moment.

Haha the only thing that really matters is the ring title and rankings. This is a cool card though. The first time I saw Alvarez he was on the undercard of the Mayweather Mosley fight. Come a long way. Any predictions? I'm thinking mayweather and Alvarez win. I would like to see Moseley end with another W though. Poor guys wife has all his money

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 5/06/2012 12:16pm

Not going to lie. I came here to gloat. Yes, Mayweather beat Cotto, but he showed how absolutely beatable he is. Here's what I said about a winning strategy against Mayweather:

Castillo won rounds by pressuring Mayweather, and taking the fight to the inside. He was able to beat Castillo in the rematch due to superior footwork — but Mayweather no longer has this advantage anymore. Instead, he makes due with coaxing his opponents into the pocket, then feeding them with the jab.

Anyone who beats Mayweather will need to know how to fight on the inside.

Yes, Cotto didn't beat Mayweather — but he gave Mayweather hell over 12 rounds and busted up his nose pretty good. You know how he did it? The Castillo strategy all over again. Pressure Maweather, take him to the inside, manhandle him against the ropes.

Let's examine the prospect of a Mayweather-Martinez fight again. Martinez fights at 157lbs. Jr. Middleweight limit is 154lbs. This fight is doable, and would be the best possible fight in boxing — much better than Mayweather-Pacquiao.

Based on what I saw last night, I say Martinez is that much better than Mayweather. How do I know this? Let's just say a I've heard warning bells.

***Tranquil Suit*** · Posted On: 5/06/2012 12:33pm

Originally Posted by atomicpoet

Yes, Cotto didn't beat Mayweather — but he gave Mayweather hell over 12 rounds and busted up his nose pretty good. You know how he did it? The Castillo strategy all over again. Pressure Maweather, take him to the inside, manhandle him against the ropes.

What fight were you watching?? That was a landslide victory for Mayweather. He was never even in trouble. Mayweather was toying with Cotto on several occasions.

Originally Posted by atomicpoet

Let's examine the prospect of a Mayweather-Martinez fight again. Martinez fights at 157lbs. Jr. Middleweight limit is 154lbs. This fight is doable, and would be the best possible fight in boxing — much better than Mayweather-Pacquiao.

Based on what I saw last night, I say Martinez is that much better than Mayweather. How do I know this? Let's just say a I've heard warning bells.

If you wanna hype up Martinez, go ahead, I support that. But putting him over Mayweather is ridiculous, especially after last night.

By the way, what you're saying about Floyd ("Oh yeah, look at the holes in his style, this next guy will be a nightmare matchup for Floyd"), has been said by many since he was 25-0. 20 Fights later... still undefeated. Suck it, haterz.

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 5/06/2012 12:55pm

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

What fight were you watching?? That was a landslide victory for Mayweather. He was never even in trouble. Mayweather was toying with Cotto on several occasions.

I scored it 116-112. So did Ring Magazine, and so did Scott Christ. In fact, go read your average newspaper and see what the consensus is: Floyd legitimately won, but it was far from a dominant performance.

Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit

If you wanna hype up Martinez, go ahead, I support that. But putting him over Mayweather is ridiculous, especially after last night.

Cotto wasn't even ranked top P4P by Ring Magazine walking into that fight. Martinez is ranked #3, and is commonly considered at the same elite level as Pacquiao and Mayweather. He is also the Ring Magazine champion in a weight class he's undersized in.

If Cotto gave Mayweather hell, imagine what Martinez would do.

By the way, what you're saying about Floyd ("Oh yeah, look at the holes in his style, this next guy will be a nightmare matchup for Floyd"), has been said by many since he was 25-0. 20 Fights later... still undefeated. Suck it, haterz.

I'm not a hater — just realistic about Mayweather. Yes, he's elite, but he's nowhere near the GOAT. Certainly, he's not better than Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, or even Julio Cesar Chavez.

I will, however, give kudos where kudos is due. This was an exciting fight, and Mayweather showed genuine class at the very end. More PPV mega events need to be this awesome.

**alex** · Posted On: 5/06/2012 4:53pm

can someone for the love of fucking christ put larry merchant out of my misery? and while we're at it, can we also get rid of the twenty fucking commentators with no idea of what is going no and get two casters who know about boxing?

**ReadyEddy** · Posted On: 5/07/2012 1:34pm

Really good fight though it's hard to care about Mayweather unless he fights Pacquiao.

**atomicpoet** · Posted On: 5/07/2012 5:54pm

Originally Posted by ReadyEddy

Really good fight though it's hard to care about Mayweather unless he fights Pacquiao.

Let's see if Pacquiao will get by Bradley. I'm not certain he can, and I think Bradley will pull off the upset.

In either case, Martinez is a better match-up for Mayweather than Pacquiao. If Mayweather beats Martinez, I would have no compunction about declaring Mayweather the greatest of all time.

Martinez is as fast as Mayweather
Martinez is stronger than Mayweather
Martinez is meaner than Mayweather

It's a fight that can happen, and it's a fight that should happen.

**Einstein McFly** · Posted On: 5/09/2012 1:56pm

Originally Posted by Alex

can someone for the love of fucking christ put larry merchant out of my misery? and while we're at it, can we also get rid of the twenty fucking commentators with no idea of what is going no and get two casters who know about boxing?

Man, unless you hear Colonel Bob Sheridan's call, you have nothing to complain about. I haven't heard so much nuthugging since Mayroga/Forrest II. It was UNBEARABLE.