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  1. Sang is offline
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    4/22/2012 1:23am


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    Best way to use a private?

    What is your perspective on the best way to use a private lesson from a coach in your sport?

    Do you use it to improve aspects of your game you are weak in?
    Do you ask the coach to teach a couple of the techniques he's best at?
    Do you do some sparring or limit the exercises to get them downpat?

    I'm far too cheap to buy them usually but won a private at a local competition here. He's a BJJ blackbelt with recent competition wins in Brazil and a fair idea of my current game.

    I'd love to know how to get the most out of it.
    "Boxing is the art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting into position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit."
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    4/22/2012 2:40am


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    I personally would want in depth on my biggest weakness. Alternately, half on biggest weakness, half fine tuning your go to moves.
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    4/22/2012 3:00am


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    It’s an obvious thought, but I’ll mention it nevertheless: You could ask him what he thinks is the best use of a private lesson. If he knows your game and his own strengths as a coach, he might have the best insight into what’s a worthwhile way to spend it (and the obvious incentive that if he gives you a really productive lesson, you might want more privates). Not to say it isn’t a good idea to have your own goals in mind, but I’d probably take this into account as well.
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    Posted On:
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    I take privates predominantly, due to my schedule and that of the school.

    Do you use it to improve aspects of your game you are weak in?
    Do you ask the coach to teach a couple of the techniques he's best at?
    Do you do some sparring or limit the exercises to get them downpat?
    All of the above and what Petter said.

    Often we roll first and he breaks down my most glaring weakness. Then we'll work a series of movements based on that hole in my game.
    At the end of the class we roll again and he'll look for me to use the new stuff.
    The first roll is pretty quick, but we'll do 30 mins or so at the end of class.

    There's always someone else with us so he can watch and coach me while i roll with another student or demonstrate a move/sequence while i watch, that really helps obviously.
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    Posted On:
    4/23/2012 10:58am

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    I think its useful to have them "play" with you in whatever manner your art does that, then note the things that he/she catches you with the most and work on those things in particular, and/or work on things that you're trying that aren't working for a technical reason in the same way.
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    4/23/2012 12:45pm


     Style: Judo & BJJ

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    I think private lessons depend on how well your instructor knows you and how well you know yourself (vague, I know). It also depends on whether its a one-off or a going to be something regular. My time is more limited than my cash, so I try to do at least 2 Judo privates a month and have done so for about a year. They're with my regular Judo instructor, so he pretty much knows what I need better than I do and knows how to progress me. I may ask him about specific problems I'm having (e.g. dealing with the odd gripping of our new, monstrously strong Russian).

    In the OPs case, it's hard to say. I like the idea of rolling with him and having him teach you what he sees as your problems. If it's a one-off, you're probably best off with overarching analysis rather than a specific technique or two.
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    4/24/2012 12:00pm


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    I found myself getting roped into a Private today, I say roped into because I had no intention of doing a private here as I have already paid more than enough for my training...but in a momment of weakness I agreed to it.

    So I have a 90 minute Muay Thai private tomorrow, I already know his English is pretty **** so thats gonna make things interesting. Not sure what I'll work on, I would like to try and work on changing my stance and using my power side forwards and get some sparring in.

    The guy is a champion over here and showed me some magazine which looked about 15 years old with a picture of him and a load of belts, but in Thailand every Thai with a pair of gloves seems to claim to be some kind of champion or another.
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    4/26/2012 5:24am


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    Hey Sang, had the same thoughts regarding privates, and I just asked my coach what would be best. I'm aware of what I want to work on and as to where my most glaring holes are, because that's all I focus on Friday nights in open mat.

    So I said I'd have a list of a couple of big things I'm aware of as holes in my game, and also that I'm probably missing a lot of things while I focus on those in particular. He said that was a good idea to at least have some idea where you want to start, then we can see from there.

    Being as prepared as you can is pretty good if you know where you get stuck/beaten/finished a lot, you can work back from there with the instructor, kinda reverse engineer your problems, I suppose? Then any massive holes they'll be able to help you out.

    I think it would be a bit weird to ask to focus on a particular 'specialised' sub or striking type, especially if this is not something the instructor teaches or has a great familiarity with, as it probably won't benefit you the best.

    Example: If you had a weak mount, you notice you feel off balance there and lack positional control which means subs cannot be set up in the correct way.

    You could run that by the instructor, get them to work on the small things for a big position. I'd say, you could be better off aiming for the BIG holes, for major positions, than really getting down to tiny nitty gritty pieces of a sub or transitional position; for what it's worth!

    Also, grats on the win again and the private!
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    Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.

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    Posted On:
    4/27/2012 3:21am


     Style: MMA, Yoga

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    Thanks for the advice guys. I have a clearer idea of what i want out of the private now.
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