What is this move called (Judo)?

**Katriona1992** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 6:05am

Its like the rear naked choke (lying down version) expect that my hands are clamped together (thumb and index finger of left hand grabbing onto index to pinky of right hand) and one of my arms is under the armpit of my opponent.

Thanks :)

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 6:11am

You mean this?

**Katriona1992** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 6:16am

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

You mean this?

nupe, I am behind the uke/victim with my legs hugging their stomach

**Colin** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 6:51am

I think what you're talking about, I would call over/under control. There's probably a japanese judo name for it but I've never known/used it.

**Katriona1992** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 7:16am

I think its called Hitame something...

**Naszir** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 7:54am

Do you mean this

but with the hands like this?

Thanks to Stephan Kesting and our very own Aesopian for the images.

If so, that is taking the back with a seat belt control or over under with a gable grip. it isn't worth anything in judo as far as osaekomi but there are a lot of submissions there. In BJJ, it's worth 4 points.

**CrackFox** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 8:57am

Are you possibly thinking of kata-ha-jime?

It's not done with the hands grasping each other - one hand grabs the collar and the other snakes in under the armpit, back behind the head and grabs the forearm of the collar hand.

**Katriona1992** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 4:05pm

Originally Posted by Naszir

Do you mean this

but with the hands like this?

Thanks to Stephan Kesting and our very own Aesopian for the images.

If so, that is taking the back with a seat belt control or over under with a gable grip. it isn't worth anything in judo as far as osaekomi but there are a lot of submissions there. In BJJ, it's worth 4 points.

Ta. Its the second pic :)

**speedycerviche** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 6:51pm

Any naked strangle in Judo is called Hadaka Jime.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 5/30/2011 8:11pm

Originally Posted by Katriona1992

Ta. Its the second pic :)

Erm it probably doesn't have a name because that's not a submission techniques. Formally in Judo only ippon scoring techniques are named in newaza i.e rear naked choke - hadaka jime, scarf hold - kesa gatame, straight arm bar - juji gatame etc...

Transitional positions like taking the back, half guard and the seat belt grip - shown in the picture you identified - don't score ippon and so don't have formal names. There are informal names for example the guard is called 'do osae' in Japan, but normally in English speaking countries its refered to as 'in between the legs' etc... So your coach may have an informal name for it in either English or Japanese, but it won't have a formal name.