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  1. matthewsmatt is offline

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    What other exercise for the shoulders exist besides military presses?

    I do military presses and/or handstand pushups for my shoulders, but I heard that they are not as beneficial as they look, and injury prone. What other exercises can I use to build up my shoulders?
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    If your goal is getting strong, they're pretty much the best pressing movement for your shoulders there is..

    And it's only injury prone if you do it wrong.

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    You could do pushups with rotation between reps, Turkish get ups, and get a rubber band to work with.

    or..

    What do you mean by "shoulder" anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewsmatt View Post
    I do military presses and/or handstand pushups for my shoulders, but I heard that they are not as beneficial as they look, and injury prone. What other exercises can I use to build up my shoulders?
    You do military presses and/or handstand push-ups? Do you not know if you do either of these movements, or do you mean that you do both of them?

    And how beneficial do these exercises "look"? The benefits are measurable by results, not how they appear.

    Find whoever told you this information and beat them to death with a copy of Mil Siff's "SuperTraining".

    That said, in order to save this thread, some other great shoulder developing movements are bradford presses, swiss bar overhead presses, push presses, overhead rack lockouts, bench press, incline press, log press, etc.
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    I alternate between knuckle push-ups against a wall and a hung gar arm drill with 2&1/2 pound weights. These may seem lame but they do the trick without injury.
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    Really, I've never heard of an increased rate of injury with overhead pressing, and I doubt there is any data to support it. Injury results from improper form and programming.
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    Overhead pressing is probably one of the safest lifts.. unless you drop the bar on your head.

    Seriously. Barring neck/disc issues, you should be doing it.

    As a supplement I often do resistance band exercises such as lateral raises and various rotator cuff exercises, but these are because of previous shoulder injuries caused by my love of punching people in the face.
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     Style: Does exercise count?

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    If you're concerned about the safety of overhead lifting, but still want to overhead lift then follow the advice of Eric Cressey, who happens to be a guy who knows a little about the subject.

    First, switch to dumbbells so you can press with a neutral grip. This means starting pinky side away from your face. From what I understand it's acceptable to adjust your grip as you press, or you can also keep the grip neutral the whole way through. I think this is a comfort issue.

    Secondly, press in the scapular plane. Look it up in addition to my shoddy description. I'd say to find the scapular plane, think of sticking your arms out directly to the side make a straight line as 0 degrees and straight in front as 90 degrees. Put your arms at 30 degrees. If you're confused, start at 45 and move your arms back a little.

    I'd cite my sources, but I'm feeling lazy.
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    The only thing i do for shoulders is clean and press with a bar and/or sandbag, that will get you some serious shoulders, but most beneficial is that you work alot of other muscle groups at the same time, and def increases overall strength.
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