1/12/2010 11:38pm, #1
Middle Aged or Older Bastardos that train... Post in here
So it's finally hit me, I'm 41. I started on Bullshido when I was, what? Thirty Four. So hitting Middle Age kinda creeped up on me.
What I want to know from my fellow old fuckers, how has age changed your training, what injuries are nagging or have you out of training, and what your plans are for the future.
BJJ off and on for 3 years total, about a year of MMA, and Thai off and on. As with some of us in Combat Sports, we want to test our skills. So a few MMA smokers later, I've learned that I don't have what it takes to fight anything more than the smokers, maybe an Amateur fight, but at my age, who knows.
After my 1st MMA match, I learned from that experience of getting my face punched in that my ground game on my back was ****. So for the next years, that's all I put my time into. But grappling is hard on the body. Couple with muscle imbalances from sitting behind a computer 12 hours a day, and **** breaks down. I've had both shoulders MRI'd, and have had issues with both rotator cuffs. I've been off the mats now 10 months, and feel about 90% there, in fact will be back on the mats next week, fingers crossed.
Just from 34 to 40, my training is know all about getting the most of my technique with the least amount of energy. I still have far to go. When I started, I tried to muscle out and fight the tap. Nowadays, I tap fast, and tap often. I also don't have that urge anymore to alpha anyone on the mats. It's no longer a competition for me to keep track of who tapped me, and vice versa.
I plan to train in BJJ for the rest of my life, in fact, I still dream of getting my Black one day. Guys like Aesopian are a source of inspiration to me, he loves Jiu Jitsu, and it shows.
My son is now 15, he's 6 foot tall and 190lbs. He still loves BJJ, even though he's turned into a dirty wrestler. :) BJJ is one of the bonding things we have, other than COD MW2 and games like it. And let's face it, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu is life.Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
1/13/2010 12:12am, #2
I'll be 41 in a little more than a month. I've struggled with a number of medium to minor injuries for the last year and a half. About six months ago I finally started to understand that I could no longer train at a high intensity every time I stepped onto the mat. Once a week, sure, but every time? No, that way injury lies.
These days I typically spar at 50% intensity with people I trust. This prevents making my current injuries from getting worse and helps me avoid new ones.
Injuries have caused me to rethink my ego. Due to a neck injury that wouldn't go away, I had to tap to anyone when they started setting up guillotine attempts. Not when they had the position, mind you, during the set up.
I also started focusing on eating more healthy food and getting more rest.
I started training seriously at 32. I haven't stopped since. I too plan on rolling until I die or am too broken to do so.
1/13/2010 12:36am, #3
Hmmmm, at fifty I could spar hard and throwdown; getting thrown was getting to be a problem. Around that time I started limiting my getting thrown to maybe ten breakfalls then I'd just throw. Now at a couple months from sixty, and managing to injure both shoulders even throwing is getting more difficult. I've healed enough to be able to spar pretty hard again, but gas out fast. Most standup and takedown type drills are OK. Pad and bag OK too. I gave up on BJJ/MMA school as trying to just practice triangles (put your butt up higher, pat, reach your legs up and around...) put pressure right on the fucked up shoulder. Maybe after the surgery that I'm putting off."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
1/13/2010 1:46am, #4
- Join Date
- Sep 2004
- Soviet State Of Kalifornia
I'll be 38 soon and like some of you guys mentioned I seem to get more nagging small injuries than I ever used to in my 20's. It seems like they just don't heal anymore so they just accumulate until I need to just take a week or two off.
I also have a hard time keeping up with the 'kids' with regard to cardio and endurance. My biggest asset was always my speed and now that I can't maintain that for extended periods I'm having to adjust my game. It can be irritating but I just need to accept it and move on.
I still have my dirty tricks though that helps equalize things! Of course, until my training partners learn those too...
I will add this though, one of my good friends competed in Dog Brothers Gatherings until the age of 50, so the hope is there!.
To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence;
Supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without spilling your Guinness.
Sun "Fu Man JhooJits" Tzu, the Art of War & Guinness
1/13/2010 4:35am, #5
- Join Date
- Jul 2008
- Donegal, Ireland
I am 37 and have been doing BJJ since 2001 and MMA since 2004. I boxed when i was younger.
Last year i finally realised that I couldn't keep going with MMA so I have cut back to one day a week. I started getting injuries that didn't go away ever and realised that it was not wise to continue.
I took up Judo three days a week to replace the MMA and i am really enjoying it. I also go to the MMA club once a week but just do BJJ/grappling. I also do strength training three days a week.
I dont think you are ever too old to train, just to old to do certain types of training. One of the guys at Judo is 63 (and 7th dan).
1/13/2010 8:03am, #6
I'll be 58 in June. Cardio is not where I would like it and the "after work out soreness" lasts a little longer than it used to. I still take the breakfalls without problems but will tap out quick when someone catches my re-habbed elbow. I'm still enjoying the workouts though but have no interest in competition. (I will admit that it still looks fun though and I sometimes think about getting back out for an occaisional comp. now and then.)
1/13/2010 8:49am, #7
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
I just turned 42 and I've been training in BJJ for about 3 and half years now. I definitely feel a lot stiffness and soreness that I don't recall when I was younger. But I also know I'm a lot stronger.
1/13/2010 9:13am, #8
I'll be 44 in March. I've been incredibly fortunate in that I haven't received any shall we say life-changing injuries in training. Mostly my problem is with cardio, and injuries take a lot longer to heal - especially anything involving hits to bone.
Right along with the age is (hopefully) a little wisdom though: I baby my injuries (ice, dit da jow, and rest, religiously), protective gear makes a lot more sense (what the hell is it with arnisadors eschewing eye-protection?).
Paradoxically, I'm probably training harder now than I ever did in the past, as well as free weights, body-weight exercises and capoeira on the side.
1/13/2010 9:23am, #9
i'm 38 and will be 39 in june. started hung fist boxing in 95 and racked up my share of injuries from it (torn meniscus, torn rotator cuff, fractured orbital, etc.) found out that i don't have the mentality for full contact ring fighting, and focused more on coaching. found that i was not getting enough shuai (throwing) in my kung fu, and that it was hurting my ability to coach sanda fighters, so i signed up for judo this last august (put aside all other training for the most part, and my teaching entirely.)
judo is great, and i have been learning really quickly. i should be competing soon, and have set the goal of at least shodan and a certified coach before getting back into coaching sanda.
the workouts are really hard on me, and i have to be careful and tap before injury during newaza, but i haven't had any injuries that really took me out (yet.) i have to deal with a lot of youthful aggression, as the guys my size in the dojo are young and full of energy, so i have to be crafty. the guys my age are twice my size and much craftier than me, so they throw me around and crush me with no problem.
recently started weight training with some of the guys from the dojo, hoping to improve my strength and endurance. we'll see how that goes, but it was long overdue."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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1/13/2010 9:35am, #10
- Join Date
- Feb 2008
Will hit 59 in March. Have been training in formal martial arts since mid teens. Love the mat and have had to limit my hard sparring. Surgeries, permanent injuries and the odd medical issues that come with age had curtailed my hardest activities due to longer healing/recovery periods. Still have to demonstrate the lessons and coaching requires hands on, but no competitiion for me, not any more.