Thread: Muay thai kicks
8/07/2009 2:29am, #1
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Muay thai kicks
I used to take muay thai a long time ago. I was thinking about the shin kicks that muay thai fighers use all the time. To my knowledge kids in thailand start muay thai training when they are very young and they are kicking pads at first and then they move on to kicking harder objects. This conditions there shins to where when they kick another person legs hitting shin on the other persons bones they are less likely to hurt themselves. Now, what about the american that starts muay thai when they are older? In the clases they kick pads and when they spar they kick other people making contact with bonoe on bone. The thing is that they are noting kicking bone on bone with all thir power and might. This got me thinking about the fact that the american, if he has to kick someone in a real fight at some point, is very likely to injure themselves.
Check out this video: YouTube - Muay Thai Broken Leg
Here is another example: YouTube - Cage fighter gets his leg broken
I have to say that this kind of an injury would be a nightmare. But it seems to me that it could very likely happen to a person that has not trained kicking very hard objects for a good long time. And from what i remember we were always just kicking pads and then when a person does spar that are not really kicking at full power and therefore not really conditioning their shins good enough. But who other then guys who want to compete are going to go kick a tree with theor shins 100 times a day? And if they do this they still risk this kind of devastating injury. It just makes me wonder if these types of kicks are really practical with the risk of this great an injury to the legs.
Dont freak out, im not saying muay thai sucks or anything like that. It just seems to me that these types of kicks are not very smart.
8/07/2009 9:04am, #2
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I think those injuries are more freak accidents, or are the result of loooong repeated trauma. If you are looking at MT kicks for self-defense, I very highly doubt that the victim will be exchanging shin kicks with the assaulter for very long.
8/07/2009 9:06am, #3
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In both these cases, the kicker failed to turn their body about and hit with the inside of their shin bone instead of the very top.
Does anyone else agree that this probably plays an important roll in the shins being broken? I think the shins may be a lot harder to break if ... well... the force comes directly on the peak of the shin bone in the z direction with respect to the orientation of the leg. (The right side of the leg being the positive x direction, towards the knee being the y direction, and towards the calf being the z direction.. left-handed-rule)
If anyone knows what I mean.
8/07/2009 11:09am, #4
The reason why people new to muaythai hurt their shins on the heavy bag isn't so much because they lack the iron shins of the experienced practitioner, it's because they don't know how to kick right. They end up slamming a tensed leg into a hard bag. Someone that knows how to kick correctly will have no trouble kicking a solid banana bag because they know to keep the leg loose and relaxed and how to drive the force of the kick through the target rather than slamming the point of impact with a tense leg.Ranked #9 internationally at 118lbs by WIKBA http://www.womenkickboxing.com/wikba...rch%202009.htm