Training substances

**The Alchemist** · Posted On: 2/27/2009 9:11pm

Hello,

Im using NO2 explode now, and I feel as if it is retaining weight on me. It has creatine and last time I used creatine, it made me fat, I dont think I was taking it right, but Im pretty sure I was following the results on the bottle.

As for the NO2 explode, I got on the scale today and I was 260 lbs. Made me feel like a fat ass, my average weight over the past year was around 230. My body fat which was taken by an inacreate scale, was 29 percent. Last time I was on the scale I was 250 with 24 percent body fat.

Im wondering if Im taking this stuff right to! I take one scoop about 45 mins, than I take another scoop, and go workout. I work out for about 45mins a day. I lift weights 2 times a week. I know the weights have made me bulk up a little bit over the winter.

I usally take vitamins, I eat about 5-6 times aday, they are a little bigger than supposed to be. I stopped using sugar in my diet as well, Im pretty sure I have been sucking down way to much in my coffees and teas!

Any additional info is very welcome. And you can lock the thread and tell me to read the rules, and the stickies, but I already have. I have another profile, and forgot the information and email I used so I started this one now. Ive been on this board for a little over a year now.

Jim

**Sakmongkol** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 2:16pm

Creatine does not cause you to retain fat, that is a product of your (I assume poor) diet. Creatine will cause water retention, but this shouldn't result in an increase in body fat percentage.

**The Alchemist** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 4:35pm

okay well I used creatine a ways back. Are their any fat reducers out there that are halfway decent and wont have you drop dead like anna nicole?

**TheRuss** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 5:13pm

*sigh*

Creatine and weight gain - No BS Martial Arts
Are there any weight loss products that have no side effects? - No BS Martial Arts

**sochin101** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 5:15pm

I expected you to say "exercise", Russ

**Asriel** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 6:05pm

Originally Posted by The Alchemist

Hello,

Im using NO2 explode now, and I feel as if it is retaining weight on me. It has creatine and last time I used creatine, it made me fat, I dont think I was taking it right, but Im pretty sure I was following the results on the bottle.

As for the NO2 explode, I got on the scale today and I was 260 lbs. Made me feel like a fat ass, my average weight over the past year was around 230. My body fat which was taken by an inacreate scale, was 29 percent. Last time I was on the scale I was 250 with 24 percent body fat.

Im wondering if Im taking this stuff right to! I take one scoop about 45 mins, than I take another scoop, and go workout. I work out for about 45mins a day. I lift weights 2 times a week. I know the weights have made me bulk up a little bit over the winter.

I usally take vitamins, I eat about 5-6 times aday, they are a little bigger than supposed to be. I stopped using sugar in my diet as well, Im pretty sure I have been sucking down way to much in my coffees and teas!

Any additional info is very welcome. And you can lock the thread and tell me to read the rules, and the stickies, but I already have. I have another profile, and forgot the information and email I used so I started this one now. Ive been on this board for a little over a year now.

Jim

Please post your training regime and example of a day's food diary.

The chances that you're either not training properly or need to change your diet are a lot more likely than using a supplement incorrectly.

**TheRuss** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 6:44pm

Originally Posted by sochin101

I expected you to say "exercise", Russ

In politics, there's a saying: "the people get the government they deserve."

The same principle applies to advice.

Someone who is making an effort to figure out, at minimum, what it is that they don't know will eventually arrive at something approaching the right questions. And if they ask the right questions, they deserve the right answers.

But when someone asks a question that, in and of itself, betrays fundamental misunderstandings they have and mistakes they're making, do they really deserve the kind of effort it'd require to ferret those issues out and force them to re-evaluate their whole approach?

I don't know. Maybe, if I'm feeling generous (or decide to show off).

**The Alchemist** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 7:10pm

Originally Posted by Asriel

Please post your training regime and example of a day's food diary.

The chances that you're either not training properly or need to change your diet are a lot more likely than using a supplement incorrectly.

First Id like to say, lol, at the guy who said "sigh".:thebirdma

Second to awnser the quote above Ill post what a normal day is and what I do over the week.

Wake up. I get about 6-8 hours of sleep a day, I always aim for 7.
I have my 2 cups of coffee in the morning immediatly, followed by some shark cartilidge and some vitamin C.
I than have breakfast by the time Im done the second cup of coffee. I usally cook 2 hamburg patties, with cheese and french fires. The hamburg patties are about 40 grams of protein, and the fries are a hand ful with cheese, and no cooked in grease.

I follow breakfast with some of that No2 explode, and sit for 45 mins, than take another dose, and wait 15-20 mins before work out begins.

Work out consists of 4 sets of 50 push ups, sit ups, squats. Warmed up I hit the jump rope for 25 mins. Than 10 mins of shadow boxing. Ending with 25 of those up down things. I hate them more than anything.

Usally takes anwhere from 45-60mins.

Now mind you Ive only been up for about 3 hours so far.
I will have one more good meal after wards, usally some bread and 2 more hamburgs plain for the other 40 grams of protein. Than its off to work.

During work I usally snake on a mix of crackers, baby carrots, a cheap health bar. I will do this every 2.5-3 hours. Not to much, just enough usally to knick the appeatite away. Oh and I left out the Hoho's! Now I usally have something a bit filling towards the end of the night, like a tall chicken rice soup from th chinese store.

After work, or mabey when Im not working I will have some beer, light beer only. Ill suck those things down like water.

During the corse of every day, I will suck down anywhere from 3-6 cups of coffee, loaded with sugar as well.

Twice a week I hit the weights. One day I do upper, the next I do lower. I do the 5x5s at a relativly modest setting. I usally bench my weight, which I thought was 240, and then curl about 120, and do a hand ful of other thigns, and on the legs days, I do the squats, dead lifts, adn 2 other exerices. I skip the jump rope on these days, and do the shadow boxing, plus the dreaded up downs.

And I take one day off a week where I dont exercise as well.

Thats about the extent of what my schedual looks like.

I usally change my rotuine up when ever work outs start to get boring, usally 3-4 months of the same thing. But I plan on changing that to every 2 months regaurdless. I did change it this week as well, and will be dropping sugar in the coffee and the Hoho's as well!

**TheRuss** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 7:13pm

Originally Posted by The Alchemist

First Id like to say, lol, at the guy who said "sigh".:thebirdma

Did you click on the links right below it?

sochin, I assume you see what I mean...

**The Alchemist** · Posted On: 2/28/2009 7:23pm

Originally Posted by TheRuss

Did you click on the links right below it?

sochin, I assume you see what I mean...

Yeah I clicked them, just got done reading them too. I usally try to keep my calorie intake around 2-3k a day.

How can one figure out what then need for their own caloric needs for a day?

I was well aware of the 1st one, an NO explode does contain some creatine in it, so that would explain some of the weight gain.