korean judo terminologies have been defined by KJA and pretty consistent. your experience might have been club specific. and what do you mean by people using 'both' terms? you mean the club you were at used both korean and japanese terms??? that would be quite rare, unless you had a bunch of Yongin graduates at the club, and again would be localized to your club.
hey Coach Josh, this kind of generalization ain't healthy, man...
i am not fully convinced of this.
in ssireum, only belt grips are utilized. a ssireum guy would never give up a belt grip to get a neck grip. it could happen, if one loses the grip, but NO SSIREUM WRESTLER WILL RELINQUISH A GRIP UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO GET A NON-BELT GRIP. he might let go briefly to get a different belt grip, but never to get a non-belt grip. it is just too risky to do so. ssireum wrestlers refer to the belt grip as the 'life line'.
and there are major differences between the ssireum version and the judo version. in judo, and other wrestling sports, one hand would be on the collar/shoulder and the free hand will reach down deep into the crotch/thigh. (i'm trying to represent the most common form here. sukui is sometimes done in a way very similar to wrestling high-crotch, and sometimes with a lower leg grip, but i think people would agree that the first form i described is the most dominant form) In ssireum, the right hand will be on the waist and the left hand will be on the thigh grip. and left hand thigh grip is much shallower than how it would be done in judo. (for those who don't know, the belt used in ssireum is looped around your waist in a way that it provides the waist belt and also a loop around your right thigh) although the fundementals of both version are the same, the these differences are quite significant.
well, did you read my reply in the other thread about an argument i had with a greek about who invented everything?
i know that you meant that as a joke, but i must point out that generalization isn't always fair. yes, there are many koreans who really do think that koreans invented 'everything'. there are even more koreans who really do think that koreans invented everything that is from japan. but even more koreans recognize that all that is sheer bullshit.
generalization is great in the right context, but given the audience, it could be easily misconstrued. (no offence to the audience, but i doubt many of you have a reasonable knowledge in korean history and culture)
i disagree that khabarelli/obi tori ashi dori is essentially a standing/flying sumi gaeshi. 1st, sumi gaeshi isn't done with a pant grip, and it would be inadvisable to attempt sumi gaeshi with a pant grip. 2nd, khabarelli is NOT a sutemi waza, but a pick-up style throw. i do not believe you do this fantastic throw justice by saying it is essentially a standing/flying sumi gaeshi. i heard the most well respected poster in judoforum calling this throw, not a judo throw and against the principles of judo. ****.... there once was a time when all judo folks were cool in my books, but my short stay at judoforums changed that really fast.........
you gotta remember that black belts are worth **** in korea. anyone can get a 'chodan' in korea. in judo at least, starting at around samdan, you are taken seriously, but a chodan? who gives a ****. i remember someone posting (can't remember if here or at judoforum) that in japan a judo shodan signifies, 'yes, i know my ukemi. you many throw me without worrying that i might hurt myself while falling' (don't quote me on it. can't remember the exact words, but it was close to this).
this could be club/instructor specific
this is not japan specific though. neighbouring nations are also warring nations. it's like that all over the world. nothing new or unique about trying to claim territories.
we have claimed spam to be ours, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
and i gotta say, this has to be one of the funniest posts i have seen in a while. it really had me rofling. durowhateverthefuck... josh, now you have to come up with a throw to match this name.
I wrote a long post to explain myself but deleted it. Its not worth going over.
In the Chuck Hardin thread there was a post by MTripp that links to several sites. He claims the Yudo is not Korean Judo and that infact the Koreans have both a National Yudo association and a National Judo association. This thread would seem to say that Yudo is just the Korean version of Judo. I am confused. Is Yudo the Korean version of Judo or not? Was it before?
its judo, just not as cheap or widely available
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is this about right?
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