Yeah well, he said he took BJJ for 14 years when he hadn't, so this thread is bullshit anyway.
I concede your point though.
Brock wins because frank held down a lockdown when a top-flight wrestler was in his halfguard.
Wrestling don't get no respect.
MMA has a long history of wrestlers walking in and wrecking the **** of so-called technical fighters. Maybe wrestling actually has some technique? Or is that too much of a stretch?
As a tai chi chuan practicioner, I'm one of those guys who should be an armchair windbag and go on about wrestlers not having technique. Wrestling technique is a lot different from what I know, however I can't watch a really good wrestler in MMA without noticing that good wrestlers are doing a lot of the same high-level skills, but just executing them differently.
Brock Lesnar is not just a wrestler, but an NCAA champion.
Why did Mir win the first time?
Sounds like we need a rubber match. IN A STEEL CAAAGE...oh wait, they already do that.
Goddamnit, what a stupid thread, is this Sherdog or something?
Mir lost because he never established any gameplan. Turning face down so a big dude can pound on your face is not jitz. Mir also came into the cage beat up&taped knee, so stupid prep-work. Brock was fresh as a rhino in mating season.
Size/whatever, wrestling has been around for 6,000 years; if you have size and know how to use it it certaintly helps. The "it's wrestling vs BJJ all over again" assertion is just stupid.
BJJ is wrestling, just a different emphasis. Hence, no BJJ BB is going to win a NCAA freestyle comp-unless specifically trained for that event. Same goes for a wrestler getting ready for a cage-match.
Mir lost because he is a one-or-two-trick pony, I've never thought he applied BJJ to the ring in a top-level way.
See the "Stephen Kesting on Lesnar/Mir" thread in the Advanced Grappling subforum.