That may be so. If it’s a "medical fact", there must be medical evidence. If that is so, we don’t need to argue hypotheticals—you can just reference it. Where’s the medical evidence?Quote:
...its a medical fact.
So I hear (or denser, rather); now, do you have any evidence that typical hand conditioning regimens cause such microfractures? We’re not just talking about the very edge of the knuckle, after all, but the bones of the hand—presumably the metacarpals, which are thinnest and therefore weakest not at the knuckles, but in the middle of their lengths. The classical boxer’s fracture occurs at the neck of the fifth metacarpal. Does your hand conditioning regime cause microfractures there?Quote:
When you cause small fractures in bone, the bone recalcifies stronger.
No it isn’t—it’s just evident that lots of people believe that the training is beneficial to them, but people (even smart people, even successful people, even people who are both) often believe all kinds of weird and irrational ****.Quote:
Not only that, but its evident that this type of training is beneficial to many fighters.
What does this argument really amount to? "Lots of people do it, therefore it must be right"? Or perhaps (only marginally better) "Successful people do it, therefore it must be right"? Lyoto Machida drinks his own urine and he’s a terrific fighter, yet I wouldn’t recommend the practice...
No, ultimately, we’re still stuck at the observation that a set of people practice in ways that include what you classify as bone conditioning; that the training regimen as a whole produces good fighters; but that no evidence has been provided to support the claim that this bone conditioning aspect is a useful part of the practice.
Whether or not the Thai conditioning helps with bone density, I’d say it does have practical value—as plain old nerve deadening. I would also say that if this bone conditioning stuff works, it’s probably more likely to work on shins than on hands, because (logic suggests) you can more easily cause these supposed microfractures along the length of the tibia, and especially the thinner "neck" parts, rather than just at the end.Quote:
We can see that simply by looking at the training practices of kyokushin karate, and muay thai, and boxing, and pretty much any other striking art. In KK they condition their fists, in muy thai they condition their shins, in boxing they work on the heavy bag for their hands.
As for boxers, well, of course they work the heavy bag, but I don’t get the impression that most boxers believe that the purpose thereof is to condition the bones in their hands. Rather, once again, I think it’s about working technique, for which tactile feedback is necessary, and practicing to hit things hard. I’m not banking any money on this bone conditioning working, but I’d still like to get a heavy bag when I have somewhere to hang it.