Cause that is what you said:Quote:
Why do you think I'm taking judo?
I am seeking outside instruction in order to raise the level of skill in the limited grappling that we teach.
and sought out actual judo instruction outside the school.
You need to get the full import of this, 1point2. What you are doing is literally worse than no grappling training at all. You are hurting your students more than helping them.Quote:
Even if you are training at a judo school or training at a BJJ school, you aren't ready to pass that **** on yet. The flaws you're imparting to your students are flaws they're going to have to pay someone to remove.
You are DTT.
When I said, "why do you think I'm taking judo," I didn't mean "why are you under the impression," I meant, "Why would I do this?" IIF got it right.
I am not, and my school is not, in any way teaching judo. We are a karate school that teaches fundamental judo techniques the way we learned them, and we learned them legitimately. If there's something wrong with a karate school teaching upa from under mount every few months, without claiming they're a grappling school or that with this knowledge you're set, then you're suffering from BJJ monopoly syndrome and I think you should take a reality check.
do you think every judo school teaches mount in that much detail?
As an instructor in the school, I'm doing what I can to make the training better, to therefore make the students better. Would I be better if I just left and trained BJJ? Yes. Would the school be better? No. So which course of action does more to advance the goals of Bullshido.net?
On what day, which of these people should have stopped teaching the bridge from mount? Kesagatame? Jujigatame? Hadakajime?Quote:
Dale Jenkins was a judo shodan instructor before he started doing karate. His association was called the Judo Karate Kai and gave rank in both judo and karate for a time, before he just gave rank in karate but continued teaching judo as a portion of the (integrated) karate classes. He taught a full curriculum, did randori in class, etc.
Mr. Jenkins' student, Mr. Musco (as well as others), continued this tradition until the association banned tachiwaza randori due to injuries (guh). Newaza randori became less prevalent (but remained) and standard practice for throws was mostly compliant drills.
My teacher followed Mr. Musco's lead, teaching mostly compliant drills for standup (about 10 basic throws) in addition to pins (kesagatame, katagatame, mount), locks (haragatame, jujigatame), and chokes (RNC, sangaku and cross-collar mostly). Newaza randori was infrequent but present.
I teach at my teacher's school. I increased the frequency of the newaza randori, and a few others added to the technical aspects (an ex-college-and-state-level-wrestler with some judo experience is an instructor, for instance).
These are the questions I feel have not been answered.
The teacher who did mostly compliant drills should've stopped teaching the bump and roll. Clear answer. Full stop.Quote:
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So now address what I said about your false choice between crappling instruction and no instruction. Because right now no one with any real grappling experience agrees with your assertion that Judo white belts should be teaching anything, and no, you can't just proclaim diplomatic immunity because you've declared "I know I suck!". Everyone tries this. They never seem to catch on that confessing you're willingly teaching "sub-optimal" is much worse than unwillingly teaching sub-prime upas.
If that's too cryptic, by the way, here's a great rule of thumb: If your grappling lineage ever contains the phrase "then we stopped sparring for a couple years" or "I trained under a high school wrestler that knew a little Judo" or "dabbled with a guy whose dad was a Judo black belt", you're probably not qualified to teach anyone.