Jesus christ, you guys are like pulling teeth. You guys are too busy masturbating with knives in your non-dominant hand to use a fucking quote block?
From the Dog Bros FAQ you linked, Silat is an art that they wish to "acknowledge" but that is not primary to their practice.
Phrased a little differently on the Higher Consciousness page:
A) The core of our curriculum is FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS (FMA). The three principle systems upon which we draw are Inosanto Blend (Guro Dan Inosanto), Pekiti Tirsia (Grand Tuhon Leo Gaje), and Lameco (the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite), though of course there are many others too. We consider Silat to be a part of both unarmed and weaponry FMA, and, although not Filipino, we wish to acknowledge the influence of the Indonesian system of Bukti Negara Pentjak Silat of Pendekar Paul de Thouars.
Silat is one component of their trapping, throwing, and striking-during-grappling, within the Dog Bros Vale Tudo system:
The core of the system is FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS (FMA). The three principle systems drawn upon are Inosanto Blend (Guro Dan Inosanto), Pekiti Tirsia (Grand Tuhon Leo Gaje), and some Lameco (the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite). Silat is considered to be an integral part of the FMA, and in the case of DBMA it includes some of the Indonesian Silat system of Bukti Negara.
The page that is about "modified Kali Silat for the cage" (http://www.dogbrothers.com/pages/art...orthecage.html) needs translation. He is talking about something that, as far as I can tell, is both totally valid and also true of less than twenty people in the world. I'm not quite sure what his opinions are on pure or traditional Silat, and I'm not sure what Kali Silat is.
E) "DOG BROTHER VALE TUDO" is our empty handed system: striking,(Kali-panuntukan, JFGF, KK) trapping, (Kali, JFGF) throwing (Silat and others), grappling (principally BJJ, with some other things), and striking during grappling (Kali, Silat, JFGF).
He says things like
where he is using obvious tradition-specific jargon to make a fairly technical point. Boy, I'd like it if someone either A) used whatever he's talking about in some form of public competition, or B) showed the Dog Brothers using it, or C) showed the Dog Brothers teaching it. Boy, that would be nice. But you won't do it, because we're so lazy. We need to pay our 59.95 to get the DVDs and learn the True Meaning of Silat. Thanks, but I've seen the Scientology sales pitch before.
6) It is precisely the present absence of triangular striking crash combinations in cagefighting today that explains the current difficulties in applying Kali Silat in the closer ranges. Conversely, its presence enables it. Kali Silat works.
Then he gets into **** that makes me think that he's so far away from what pretty much everyone considers Silat that it's ridiculous to claim the Dog Brothers as some sort of magical potion that validates what you do:
Or in other words--correct me if I'm wrong--you need to do the equivalent of BJJ-while-standing, or push-hands-with-qin-na, or randori-with-standing-jointlocks. Is that standard Silat? Or is that something else?
Kali Silat does require some training methods distinct from those of generic MMA. Currently many people deride this training as "dead patterns". This can be, and often is, true when the training stops at this point in the process.
But just how does one train a Silat takedown that calls for ripping the medial miniscus of the knee safely upon a resisting opponent?
IMHO part of the answer lays in what Guro Inosanto calls "cooperative quarter lever" technical training wherein the correct leverage is identified but applied only a little bit in order to facilitate the development of the understanding of the application AND DANGERS of Kali Silat. Part of the answer lies in BJJ/submission type training. And part of the answer lies in working with training partners who have done both quarter lever training BJJ/submission type training.
In other words, both need to have an understanding of the risks/consequences of Silat techniques, a sense of what uncooperative people feel like, AND the ability to roll and/or strike at partial intensity without accelerating-- as the Machado Brothers say, "leaving one's ego at the door."
Not only is this type of training highly effective in installing these dangerous skills for real time application, it also is relatively safe and quite fun.
The same process described here for learning and training Silat leverage also applies to Kali Silat striking.
This conception of training methodology is essential to manifest Kali Silat in the cage.