A GJJ student can only draw upon the experience of drilling, which is very, very different from sparring. In turn, it is also very, very different from a street fight. Of course, sparring and a street fight are not directly comparable, but you do at least gain some understanding of what it is like to try and apply technique against an unwilling opponent.
To use the old swimming analogy, the GJJ student has learned how to swim by the side of the pool, without getting in the water. The BJJ student, on the other hand, has spent plenty of time swimming up and down the pool, perhaps exploring the deep end.
If you now throw them both in the sea, then the BJJ student is going to be dealing with some things they haven't faced before: it's a different environment to what they're used to, but they've got some experience with something comparable, even if the pool is a much safer setting than the open sea.
The GJJ student, on the other hand, would probably be at risk of drowning. They've never been in water before, so this is a completely new experience for them. Things that made sense theoretically don't seem to quite apply, and there are a raft of small details which were never covered, because they only become apparent from first-hand experience.
I don't see how this precludes taking the next step and testing your technique against resistance. The BJJ student needs to learn within a communal learning environment with a co-operative partner too, when first being taught a technique. However, that then progresses to increasing resistance until you get to full sparring.Quote:
Therefore, in order for a beginner to be able to learn the techniques properly and effectively they NEED to be done within a communal learning environment with a co-operative partner. After all, if you don't understand a technique well enough for it to be successful against a co-operative opponent, then you'll surely have trouble against an uncooperative street-fight opponent.
The GJJ student is stuck at the first stage of learning. The problem here is that ANY technique can be effective against a co-operative opponent. I can get a flying armbar during drilling every time. I damn sure can't get it in sparring. With more drilling, I'll understand the theory better, but I've got no hope of understanding the application until I've repeatedly failed at trying it in sparring and learned from my mistakes.
This is what I'm eagerly waiting to see for myself, as it would answer a lot of the reservations I have after watching Gracie Combatives. Hopefully they'll release the Master Cycle on DVD too, as I would definitely be interested in getting hold of that set.Quote:
In the Master Cycle, not only will you learn hundreds of additional "street-fight-only" techniques that are rarely taught outside of the Gracie Academy and its Certified Training Centers (CTCs), but you will also learn all the sport BJJ techniques that are taught everywhere else. In addition, you will experience the 100% competitive sparring that you are inquiring about, but you do so in ways that are much more dynamic than what is found in most BJJ schools. [...]
the difference of sportive grappling ability between a GJJ blue belt and a BJJ blue belt quickly diminishes with the introduction of the Master Cycle, so that by the time a student has a few stripes on their blue belt, the is no difference (I realized this the hard way the first time I visited the Gracie Academy in Torrance, when I was a four-stripe blue belt in BJJ).
That would still leave one reservation, however, which is the lack of competition. If you never spar with people outside of your own school, in the high-pressure environment of competition, that's one thing: many people choose not to compete. I myself have only ever competed once, and it isn't something I particularly enjoy.
However, if the entire school never competes, that's a problem. With no outside influences, that school is likely going to stagnate. Something I babble about at length here.