Siu Lum Gar, Auckland, NZ
Greetings to all,
I attended this school for about two years, four years ago now. I’ve just found this site and thought it would be an interesting to throw this to the hounds, being you guys.
Chief Instructor and Founder: Martin Lindgreen (whom I trained under directly). On the website you’ll find
“Mr. Lindgreen is a Master Instructor in Kung Fu, 6th degree black belt in Arnis Sikaran, 4th degree Black belt in Karate and ranked 5th level Black Sash under Singapore Martial Arts Federation.”
The main emphasis of the school being kung fu, or Shaolin if you wanna translate the Cantonese, you’d think he’d be more open about the heritage. I asked Mr. Lindgreen on several occasions about his teachers and he always avoided the questions. I also cannot find any reference amongst martial arts friends or institutions to the “Singapore Martial Arts Federation”. Hell, I can’t even find it on Google. I’ll try track my old certificates and see what they say too.
The karate also, should be fairly easy to trace in a country as small as mine. Alas, his lineage seems to be conveniently missing again. I have heard from an old friends parents that he trained in karate, can’t remember the style, but 4th Dan didn’t sound like it fit the description of his abilities.
I have no idea about the Filipino art reference. We did get taught some stick fighting in class, but hey, at the time I’d just lost about 20kg of “puppy fat” and was ready to believe I was invincible if I trained my horse stance ‘til it was ‘strong as a mountain’, so my judgement some years later is probably lacking.
He also claims to have won many international competitions:
“Prior to 1986, Mr Lindgreen won a total of 18 national and international titles. After a short retirement from the competition circuit, in 1996 he won Champion of Champions and 4 major events in 1997 at the CCP International Competitions in Australia.”
After reading this site I thought I might as well try gain some truth out of the matter, so I emailed the organisation, saying I was a MAist trying to find out some info on the style for a friend in Auckland. The following emails were exchanged:
I got asked by a friend to ask about your school. I'm down in Wellington but she's in south Auckland. I practise a style called Wu Tao down here, which is a small school that teaches a variety of Shaolin fists as well as qigong and chen style tai chi. Could you please tell me a little about your school, your lineage, instructors and anything that might be useful and that I might be able to relate to her?
Thanks very much for your time,
Siu Lum Gar was formed in 1989 by the clubs chief instructor Martin
Lindgreen. You'll find out about Martin & his lineage from our web site, the
senior instructor & technical advisor, Derrick Manchester has trained with &
under Martin for over 25 years, Clerk Master is a black sash instructor who
has had several world titles to his name & myself I'm the junior instructor
with a background in Chinese Boxing (Zhuan Shu Kuan) & was taught in
Aberdeen, Scotland. I've been with Siu Lum Gar near on ten years now,
practising Kickboxing/Chinese Boxing then moving on to the traditional Kung
We are a fight based style & all our forms (empty hand & weapon) reflect
this. Again more information is available at the web site along with
training times & locations.
If you have any further questions please feel free to contact us.
For Siu Lum Gar
Thanks you very much for your reply Chae,
Are you able to tell me anything about the specific training that Mr. Lindgreen received before he started this club? I'm not trying to wheedle, I'd just like to learn a little about the history of the club's style. What style Karate did he train in and where? What Chinese 'kung fu' forms did he learn, from whom, and how has he incorporated them into Siu Lum Gar's curriculum? How did the five animals of your style come about, as it is slightly different from the '5 animals' that I'm used to?
Any information would be appreciated.
Give Martin a call direct 021 542 546 I'm sure he'd be more than happy to
inform you of who & where he trained.
So… I’ll get round to giving him a call once finals are over, but in the meantime, what do you guys think, does anyone have any knowledge of the competitions/associations he claims to be involved with?
P.S. thanks to Jonas for his advice