-to get tagged and manhandled around widouth being able to return the favor in an aceptable ratio is hardly "holding your own" in my book.
About the self-deluded guys, those type of people are not the norm to wich training and learning parameters should be at. they are the exception (hopefully) and not the rule.
Ive also met people who tought that they could defent against weapons bare-handed,but i didnt stab the dumb fucker for real to "set the point".
Accept no substitute to common sense.