Yes. Unless some new evidence comes to light Kumogakure-ryu and Gyokushin-ryu were invented by Hatsumi. As they aren't even taught, I wonder why he did it in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkmed
Hatsumi in his youth was an excellent Judo-ka. As for star....who knows? I am sure they have his win-loss record at the Kodokan.
Most Japanese Jujutsu Ryu-ha incorpotate Striking and Throwing. Off the top of my head any of the Kukishin or Yoshin Ryu variants have the more Judo-like throwing. As for Daito-ryu, its basically sharper Aikido. A lot of small joint manipulation and locking on the elbow and lower. If memory serves, Daito-ryu was a palace art (aka bodyguarding) rather then battlefield. It would be more like Harder Aikido and less like "alive" Bujinkan.
Now I have more respect for the Tanemura-sensei organizations Genbukan Ninpo/Kokusai Jujutsu/Koryu karate. I don't think you'll find a school that doesn't teach all three. However, the Kokusai Jujutsu is primarily Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu and Asayama Ichiden Ryu (Daito-ryu sister school). The Hontai Takagi Yoshin Ryu contains a lot of striking to set up throws. However, there has by a lot of noise of Genbukan dojo claiming the "too deadly to spar" rhetoric. So check the school out first and ask if they spar.